Atlas Map drops...are terrible?

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Verac10us wrote:
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kompaniet wrote:
never used a sextant and i have killed shaper and guardians every league for the last leagues.
just sell the sextants. they sell for a lot. lets you buy many high maps.


I think their point is that they can't play the game itself and run maps in order to complete the atlas, they have to sell and trade for it. I have all t15 maps completed and I still get stuck at t12 because the drops just aren't there. when I finally magic my way into a 14 or 15 map they drop 4-10 and there goes my map runs. gotta rework from 10 all the way back and it can take 30 maps to drop a 14-15 again. the xp p/h is worthless running t10-14 when you're level 90+ so there's nothing but wasted time when u actually try to play.


It's exactly narratives like this that ruin the argument. They take one experience and put it forth as the norm. Your "worthless" is more about your values than about the game itself. You can get well past 90 just by running T8-10. If you find T14 "worthless" for leveling past 90 you're doing something wrong, or just have a sense of entitlement that would make the idiots on New Jersey Shore embarrassed.
of course it's all about rng ... but rng is always based on certain parameters ... and - intentionally or not - the drop rate has been altered.
And thats imho not the right direction.
Make high tier maps harder and more challenging instead of limiting it artifically by reduceing the drop rates. Beeing stuck only sucks ...
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Shagsbeard wrote:
You can get well past 90 just by running T8-10.


I find sentences like this especially sad. It's like players don't want to progress. They don't want to achieve. They don't want to challenge themselves. "Why progress through higher content when you can do under level content for hours?".

It's not about leveling. An empty soda can can reach level 95+ doing yellow maps if it's patient. It's about fun, challenging yourself, progressing through the content, not character levels. My build and I are perfectly ready to run whatever content PoE can throw at me through maps, but the game won't let me. It regularly forces me to do under level content.


Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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Phrazz wrote:
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Shagsbeard wrote:
You can get well past 90 just by running T8-10.


I find sentences like this especially sad. It's like players don't want to progress. They don't want to achieve. They don't want to challenge themselves. "Why progress through higher content when you can do under level content for hours?".

It's not about leveling. An empty soda can can reach level 95+ doing yellow maps if it's patient. It's about fun, challenging yourself, progressing through the content, not character levels. My build and I are perfectly ready to run whatever content PoE can throw at me through maps, but the game won't let me. It regularly forces me to do under level content.




Well spoken, dude :)
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Palamabron wrote:
of course it's all about rng ... but rng is always based on certain parameters ... and - intentionally or not - the drop rate has been altered.
And thats imho not the right direction.
Make high tier maps harder and more challenging instead of limiting it artifically by reduceing the drop rates. Beeing stuck only sucks ...
I agree. I just did about 10 rare red maps(some corrupted). I got 1!!!! red map back. I never seen such a terrible maps drop in years.
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Shagsbeard wrote:
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Verac10us wrote:
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kompaniet wrote:
never used a sextant and i have killed shaper and guardians every league for the last leagues.
just sell the sextants. they sell for a lot. lets you buy many high maps.


I think their point is that they can't play the game itself and run maps in order to complete the atlas, they have to sell and trade for it. I have all t15 maps completed and I still get stuck at t12 because the drops just aren't there. when I finally magic my way into a 14 or 15 map they drop 4-10 and there goes my map runs. gotta rework from 10 all the way back and it can take 30 maps to drop a 14-15 again. the xp p/h is worthless running t10-14 when you're level 90+ so there's nothing but wasted time when u actually try to play.


It's exactly narratives like this that ruin the argument. They take one experience and put it forth as the norm. Your "worthless" is more about your values than about the game itself. You can get well past 90 just by running T8-10. If you find T14 "worthless" for leveling past 90 you're doing something wrong, or just have a sense of entitlement that would make the idiots on New Jersey Shore embarrassed.


yes t8-10 is more than enough for lvl 90. i used to get to lvl 90 in turmoil/mayhem races doing exacly that with my shaped t10 dunes maps and lower.

i think some players even level all the way to 100 doing nothing but t10-11.
Last edited by kompaniet#2874 on Feb 24, 2018, 3:14:36 PM
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kompaniet wrote:
never used a sextant and i have killed shaper and guardians every league for the last leagues.
just sell the sextants. they sell for a lot. lets you buy many high maps.


Pointless comment. This is about red maps dropping, not red maps being sold. Specifically t13+.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on Feb 25, 2018, 12:35:03 AM
The drops seems tuned for chisels + sextants. Without sextants + chisels (at the very least) I don't think you'd sustain very well.

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