I'm...slightly baffled here.

I'm fine with certain, expensive, crafted yellow items being better than lightning coil, yeah. That's the way it always should have been.

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innervation wrote:

I'm fine with certain, expensive, crafted yellow items being better than lightning coil, yeah. That's the way it always should have been.

I admit...What's the point of Coil now? What Coil offered was...UNIQUE. That was kinda how I preferred it, TBH.

Now, when the league is done we'll have a Mirror worthy chest piece of every style beating Coil, and Coil is worth less and no longer unique. Coil will be what you buy on the way to legacy gear....That doesn't seem right to me.

TLDR I liked Unique stuff STAYING Unique

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Nssheepster wrote:

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innervation wrote:

I'm fine with certain, expensive, crafted yellow items being better than lightning coil, yeah. That's the way it always should have been.

I admit...What's the point of Coil now? What Coil offered was...UNIQUE. That was kinda how I preferred it, TBH.

Now, when the league is done we'll have a Mirror worthy chest piece of every style beating Coil, and Coil is worth less and no longer unique. Coil will be what you buy on the way to legacy gear....That doesn't seem right to me.

TLDR I liked Unique stuff STAYING Unique

You are SLIGHTLY baffled; I'm VERY baffled by lots of stuff I see :P

The more complex the game becomes, the more out of control it goes. I don't know, I hope we won't face dozens of issues...

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Nssheepster wrote:

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innervation wrote:

I'm fine with certain, expensive, crafted yellow items being better than lightning coil, yeah. That's the way it always should have been.

I admit...What's the point of Coil now? What Coil offered was...UNIQUE. That was kinda how I preferred it, TBH.

Now, when the league is done we'll have a Mirror worthy chest piece of every style beating Coil, and Coil is worth less and no longer unique. Coil will be what you buy on the way to legacy gear....That doesn't seem right to me.

TLDR I liked Unique stuff STAYING Unique

You say "we"...I don't think "we" will have this mythical mirror worthy chest piece. A small handful will have this mod + good rolls (remember, the rest of the yellow mods are rolled randomly. You'll be able to count on one, two hands at most, the number of people who come out of Essence league with a mirror worthy chest with this mod. Oh and you still need the flask.

What is Coil after that? A cheap version of those mirror chests.

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innervation wrote:

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Nssheepster wrote:

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innervation wrote:

I'm fine with certain, expensive, crafted yellow items being better than lightning coil, yeah. That's the way it always should have been.

I admit...What's the point of Coil now? What Coil offered was...UNIQUE. That was kinda how I preferred it, TBH.

Now, when the league is done we'll have a Mirror worthy chest piece of every style beating Coil, and Coil is worth less and no longer unique. Coil will be what you buy on the way to legacy gear....That doesn't seem right to me.

TLDR I liked Unique stuff STAYING Unique

You say "we"...I don't think "we" will have this mythical mirror worthy chest piece. A small handful will have this mod + good rolls (remember, the rest of the yellow mods are rolled randomly. You'll be able to count on one, two hands at most, the number of people who come out of Essence league with a mirror worthy chest with this mod. Oh and you still need the flask.

What is Coil after that? A cheap version of those mirror chests.

You need the flask either way, so...Discounting that irrelevance.

To clarify the "We"...The POE Community will have one Mirror Worthy chest of each type, simply because that will be the dream of, I'd say, 70% of everyone in the league, to craft a legacy mirror worthy item and make tons of cash. With so many people trying for it, it's bound to occur, simply by spamming the RNG so many times.

I did recall the rest of them are rolled randomly....So? There will be mirror worthy chests coming out of this, which then exist in the game, and are insanely OP.

Is GGG just TRYING to make insane Mirror gear? What is the goal behind intentionally breaking their own game with power?

I think you're really overestimating how many people care about mirrored gear in Standard. Barely a quarter of the player base even plays in Standard. Sure, many people might "dream" about mirror tier gear, but very few actually go for it.

t. filthy casual

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Xavderion wrote:

I think you're really overestimating how many people care about mirrored gear in Standard. Barely a quarter of the player base even plays in Standard. Sure, many people might "dream" about mirror tier gear, but very few actually go for it.

t. filthy casual

lol

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I did recall the rest of them are rolled randomly....So? There will be mirror worthy chests coming out of this, which then exist in the game, and are insanely OP.

Is GGG just TRYING to make insane Mirror gear? What is the goal behind intentionally breaking their own game with power?

The game was already trivialised if you have that level of currency - and that isn't meant as a criticism. Pretty much EVERY GAME is trivialised when you have that much of whatever resources the game uses. It's like playing a strategy game with infinite resources turned on. Saying that we have broken multi mirror-tier gear isn't much of a criticism. That's the whole point of multi mirror-tier gear.

The point is that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't have that level of currency. Yes, even on Standard.

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Exile009 wrote:

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I did recall the rest of them are rolled randomly....So? There will be mirror worthy chests coming out of this, which then exist in the game, and are insanely OP.

Is GGG just TRYING to make insane Mirror gear? What is the goal behind intentionally breaking their own game with power?

The game was already trivialised if you have that level of currency - and that isn't meant as a criticism. Pretty much EVERY GAME is trivialised when you have that much of whatever resources the game uses. It's like playing a strategy game with infinite resources turned on. Saying that we have broken multi mirror-tier gear isn't much of a criticism. That's the whole point of multi mirror-tier gear.

The point is that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't have that level of currency. Yes, even on Standard.

I agree..>BUT I don't see that as an excuse to make MORE. This league seems tailor made JUST to make Mirro gear, and having a league with THAT as the sole purpose is insane.

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Nssheepster wrote:

GGG's stance, AFAIK, was, "Uniques never beat really good rares, Uniques are only there for the unique thing they offer that you cannot get on a rare"

Well, now I CAN get this on a rare, and Coil is now shit. GGG? Some explaining would be nice as to the logic here.

Care to provide the source of that statement?
Because I remember their instance as being something like "uniques should be some times build enablers but never just better than good rares".
And, correct me if i'm wrong, but that sinle essence mod doesn't make a chest better than Coil, you would have to roll a bunch of other nice mods with it, which would be quite hard.
So, in this case, Coil would standing as a placeholder for a godly rare for quite some time on your chest slot, only to be replaced IF you find a better rare. That said, most of the playerbase will never roll a good enough rare to replace Coil on a life build.