I'm...slightly baffled here.

Disclaimer: Anyone suggesting that rarity/difficulty of obtainment is balancing things needs to not comment here. Idiocy of that kind is unwelcome.

We all know Lightning Coil, right?

30% of physical damage taken as lightning damage.
-60% lightning resistance.
And some generally meh rolls elsewhere, the added lightning can be nice at times.

Standard GGG style. Strong unique, if not THE strongest unique chest around, with a clear downside of the negative res, and the chance to self-shock. Clear good, clear bad.

Now we have Essence League. I'm calling it now, this is NOT rolling over.
Essence of Horror...Used on a Body Armour, it offers...

15% of physical damage taken as cold damage.
That's not a from X-Y roll, that simply IS 15%.

Half a Lightning Coil....No downside....On a rare that can get good rolls, not meh ones like Coil...And usable on ANY base? Pure Armor, Pure ES, Pure Evasion....Hybrid ES/Evasion, Hybrid ES/Armor....Let's just make Lightning Coil available to EVERYONE?

This seems crazy as is. Until it was made clear to me the SECOND issue.

Taste of Hate offers 20% of physical damage taken as cold. It also is on a Sapphire base, so it offers max cold resistance.


So now, with a good rare and Taste of Hate, you can convert 35% physical damage to COLD, which is already an upgrade to Coil by 5% and by a less dangerous damage type. You can do this on any chest base, also an upgrade. To top it off, you can do this while getting that +6 max res from Taste for free, and since it's all cold now, not split cold/lightning like going Coil and Hate...You can reduce it further by running Purity of Ice, and maybe even grabbing the passive node. Before, it was two purities and two nodes, if you even bothered. Now add in Kaltensoul or something like it.


Anybody else baffled by this being allowed? A better Lightning Coil, that synergizes with Taste of Hate. I'm baffled. Someone explain this.

you forget pathfinder builds can get 10+seconds pot time thanks to tree + class and infinite recharge every 3sec.

PAthfinder god mod.

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Head_Less wrote:

you forget pathfinder builds can get 10+seconds pot time thanks to tree + class and infinite recharge every 3sec.

PAthfinder god mod.

No, I remembered. Believe me. Can you imagine a CI Pathfinder with this BS? ES/Evasion, huge CI style pool OFC, and then right near that passive node for max cold res....Even when you DO get hit, you're almost negating 35% of it.

Let's see....75% cold res.
+6 From Taste. TBH, more like +7 if you go pathfinder. Maybe 8, but we'll call it 7, I don't wanna do the math there.

+4 max from Purity of Ice.

+1 from Passives.

87% right there, without even being gimmicky.

Add in say, Kaltensoul...+5 more, so 92%. And Kaltensoul also offers 20% of fire taken as cold.

The synergies aren't getting crazy here or anything.

Not like this would be fair if it was fire, but it'd at least be less awfully broken.

Why not just use coil, hate and war bands hat, glutton of elements? Sounds better to me.

If you are really rich you can find something like this but better and then you are quasi immortal from phy + 1 elemental type. Yea then find other ocnversion on gear and damage get nulified so much.

PAthfinder also get cancelation of status ailments when using pots so...

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PrinceOfPuddles wrote:

Why not just use coil, hate and war bands hat, glutton of elements? Sounds better to me.

Glutton, A, is not really reliable. A Flask is SOMEHWAT reliable, but not really.

Warbands hat, legacy, can't get it.

Coil, has - lightning res, a LOT of it. Coil also doesn't snergize with Taste.

With this new mod and Taste, you can quickly and easily end up mitigating MORE than Taste and Coil, AND you've no risk of Self Shock.

Nothing stopping you from going Gluttony on that either. Or using the Helm on that either.

The issue is the lack of Coil's balancing downsides (Negative res and the armor/evasion base, plus meh rolls) AND adding free Synergy with Taste of Hate for extra mitigation, if you simply stack max cold res.

This is MORE mitigation than Coil, for LESS effort.

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Head_Less wrote:

If you are really rich you can find something like this but better and then you are quasi immortal from phy + 1 elemental type. Yea then find other ocnversion on gear and damage get nulified so much.

PAthfinder also get cancelation of status ailments when using pots so...

That is a hell of a Talisman. That and Kaltensoul, Cold and Fire damage just drop right off you, just for stacking max cold res. Legacy, so not really counted in their balancing...

But still. I expect that coming in now, dang.

Imagine stacking Endurance Charges as well. And maybe Melee, Fortify? Danggggg

That would be really tanky, really fast.

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Nssheepster wrote:

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Head_Less wrote:

If you are really rich you can find something like this but better and then you are quasi immortal from phy + 1 elemental type. Yea then find other ocnversion on gear and damage get nulified so much.

PAthfinder also get cancelation of status ailments when using pots so...

That is a hell of a Talisman. That and Kaltensoul, Cold and Fire damage just drop right off you, just for stacking max cold res. Legacy, so not really counted in their balancing...

But still. I expect that coming in now, dang.

Imagine stacking Endurance Charges as well. And maybe Melee, Fortify? Danggggg

That would be really tanky, really fast.

+ this too lol. they are worth few ex now, ppl should buy tem before this get discovered.

Power creep is a helluva thing.

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Head_Less wrote:

+ this too lol. they are worth few ex now, ppl should buy tem before this get discovered.

Yeah, those are the old Warbands helmets.


In general though, my point was, we just got offered a BETTER Lightning Coil...Why?

GGG's stance, AFAIK, was, "Uniques never beat really good rares, Uniques are only there for the unique thing they offer that you cannot get on a rare"

Well, now I CAN get this on a rare, and Coil is now shit. GGG? Some explaining would be nice as to the logic here.