Mechanical Questions Thread

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Hey, I wanted to ask if the new redeemer mod

"Spells have a (12–14)% chance to deal Double Damage"

also applys to the dot damage of for example essence drain

Double damage only applies to hits. It does not apply to any sort of damage over time, including damaging ailments from hits.

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ee3227 wrote:

Impale armor pen from Swift skewering and Forceful Skewering(Enemies you Impale have -10% to Total physical damage reduction against Impale hits) is debuff ? or just conditional effect on impale attack? Assume that I impaled an enemy and my minion also impaled that enemy, then impale damage from minion is also affected by Total physical damage reduction?

According to the manifesto, this is a debuff that goes along with the impale, so yes, impaling an enemy yourself would apply the penalty to all impale damage the enemy takes.

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squint9317 wrote:

hey there
Righteous Fire, Spell Totem, Multiple Totems
This is a question when we use all three together
Are burn damage caused by R.F overlapped by multiple totems?

My understanding is that multiple RF totems don't stack their damage.

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darkkyo wrote:

AMULET- Extractor Mentis
have the attribute: Recover 1% of Life on Kill

The recover life is for each kill ?

Yes, for each kill.

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Fabuloso81 wrote:

Does Skitterbots link with Infernal Legion Support proc Elemental Equilibrium for me if I use Arc as primary skill?

Skitterbots do not hit, so they can't apply Elemental Equilibrium. Even if they could, minions don't benefit from your modifiers, so they only way they could have EE is by being socketed in Malachai's Artifice. If you have EE yourself, Arc will apply it, and the Skitterbots will gain the benefit of its lowered resistances.

Edit: I just read the 'this damage is not affected by your damage modifiers' line.

I understand skittlebots do not hit but does attaching Infernal Legion Support to it helps? Does the fire damage from it apply EE to buff my arc?

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Fabuloso81 wrote:

I understand skittlebots do not hit but does attaching Infernal Legion Support to it helps? Does the fire damage from it apply EE to buff my arc?

To quote the keystone, "Enemies you hit with Elemental Damage temporarily get +25% Resistance to those Elements and -50% Resistance to other Elements". Both words are relevant here. It's actually your skills that need to hit, not you, but minions don't use your skills. And even if your Skitterbots had EE, Infernal Legion grants a damage over time effect. Damage over time does not hit, so it can't apply EE. What you probably want is a Flame Golem or Ice Golem socketed in Malachai's Artifice.

Ah I see! Thanks for the clarification

hey there
If you use an R.F totem that deals 100,000 burn damage per second
Will installing 2 totems cause 200,000 burn damage per second?

Quick view on my situation:

I tried the Awakener kill on MSC and failed.
It now says that I can lure him out again by defeating an Elderslayer.

All I want to do though is getting new watchstones, but somehow I cant spawn an elderslayer anymore within 3 maps. I need Level 4 on all regions to spawn them, is it gated behind the 33% chance to spawn one then?

Hope there could be a clarification about that, thanks.

Question about barrage support, the 5% more attack time per projectile, how it is calculateed lets say for 4 projectiles?:

A)4x5 = 20% more attack time
B)1,05 x 1,05 x 1,05 x 1,05 = 21,5% more attack time

If its the second case, option B, than the gem is absolute garbage.
After just few projectiles you start getting almost no dmg output at all, since your attack speed is diminshing faster. Even funnier, after having enough projectiles you start to reduce your damage.

If its option A it is still garbage since it barely give you any dmg increase later on. Each projectiles gives you less and less totall damage output, where the -5% speed is basicaly removing most of the bonus dmg you would get.

This one line in the game make it counter intuitive to itself.
Barrage suggest that you should build in order to dishout load of projectiles, yet the gem itself punish you the more projectiles you have inputed in it.
Where for example stacking frenzy charges give you stable increase in damage, and even rewards you for having more of them.

Just remove this from the gem or reduce it to like 2% max.
The 62% dmg penalty is enough, especialy after you increased armor on all mobs and the less dmg per hit you dishout the less dmg you deal.

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ekaye wrote:

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Shafirion wrote:

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vulconus

(70-100)% increased Fire Damage with Hits and Ailments against Bleeding Enemies
(70-100)% increased Physical Damage with Hits and Ailments against Ignited Enemies

I am always unsure about mechanics in regard to damage conversion. Say I use this with wildstrike and two threashold jewels so Wild Strike always chooses fire: Apparently I will get the increased damage agains bleeding enemys but what about the physical damage against ignited enemies? I don't get that, right?

Converted damage is affected by modifiers to damage dealt according to its original type and the type(s) it was converted to and through. Assuming the enemy is both Bleeding and Ignited, the increased Fire damage will scale all the damage you deal. The increased Physical damage will scale Vulconus' inherent and flat added Physical damage, but it won't scale its flat added Fire damage, since that was never Physical in the first place. Note that the enemy must take unconverted Physical damage to Bleed, and Wild Strike will convert all your Physical damage, so you'll have to find some other way to apply Bleeding. This will be especially hard during the 50% of the time Avatar of Fire prevents you from dealing Physical damage.

Thanks for the very helpful reply. Much appreciated.

I have some follow up questions.

1. Why do I need to deal unconverted physical damage for the bleeding? It says "50% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit".

2. Assuming I have permanent Avatar of Fire and another 50% conversion or use a skill like wild strike: Will the inherent flat physical damage profit from both, bleeding and ignite? If what you say is true, it should.

3. Does the increased crit chance work only with the items Avatar or Fire? Or if I get the keystone or Xoph's Blood, will the dagger give the bonus to critical strike chance permanently?

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Shafirion wrote:

Thanks for the very helpful reply. Much appreciated.

I have some follow up questions.

1. Why do I need to deal unconverted physical damage for the bleeding? It says "50% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit".

2. Assuming I have permanent Avatar of Fire and another 50% conversion or use a skill like wild strike: Will the inherent flat physical damage profit from both, bleeding and ignite? If what you say is true, it should.

3. Does the increased crit chance work only with the items Avatar or Fire? Or if I get the keystone or Xoph's Blood, will the dagger give the bonus to critical strike chance permanently?

1. A damaging ailment won't apply if it would deal no damage, and Bleeding can only be applied by Physical damage from Attacks. If you don't deal any Physical damage (and damage converted to Elemental or Chaos doesn't count), you can't apply Bleeding even if you roll a success on the Bleeding check.

2. With 100% conversion to Fire, you will be able to Ignite, but not cause Bleeding, since you're dealing only Fire damage.

3. The mods on Vulconus don't care about where you get Avatar of Fire. If you have AoF from the keystone or Xoph's Blood, you'll always have the increased crit and conversion mods active, and you'll never have the Armour mod active.