[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything
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amazing what a shitshow this thread has turned into.
I'll say it again: the second duration cluster only comes into effect against enemies that stand still for more than 5 seconds in a row. minotaur and sometimes phoenix fall into this category. hydra, chimera, shaper and uber atziri dont. simply put: this build is already freakishly strong against bosses that remain stationary and can be facetanked. its the fights where a tough boss keeps running out of our stacked icestorms (hydra in particular) and/or uses strong attacks that force us to move away (uber, shaper) that this build ""struggles"" with. moreover, since this build already has the first duration cluster, taking the second would - in an ideal setup - at most be equivalent to a 31% more multiplier, not a 45% one. (1.9/1.45 = 1.310). but the 8 passives required to get there also cost us tons of int, and probably at least one instance of base duration. so even in an ideal setting, it would effectively be a 20% more multiplier at most. so tl,dr: taking the second duration cluster would buff our single target dps by something like 20% in those rare fights where a boss is neither dead nor has moved away after 5 seconds of stacking icestorms on top of his head. for all other bosses and for mapping, it means a loss of int, damage and ES. and ofc it means reaching certain build goals later, i.e. a higher level would be required to get to all the "good" stuff. ----- about the helm discussion: I'll admit that I overlooked the damage bonus which doedres gives per curse. so a perfectly rolled doedres would give us 80% increased damage on those monsters that are acutally cursed. some math: the elementalist version of this build has a total of around 800% increased damage if we add up the bonuses from the passive tree, jewels, golems, ascendancy and int. adding another 80% on top of that is approximately equivalent to a 9% MORE multiplier. black sun provides 15% increased int. if we're running a perandus signet, but no emperors wit or emperors mastery jewels, we are sitting at a base amount of %inc int of 18% (WI) + 10% (perandus) = 28%. adding 15% on top of that is equivalent to a 11.7% MORE multiplier (1.43/1.28 = 1.117). the 20-30 int on doedres should almost make up for that 2-3% gap. so against enemies that are cursed with all three curses, doedres gives almost the same damage and provides a bit more ES (though not thaaat much...); on top of being easier to color. note, however, that this math breaks down if the enemy isnt cursed with all 3 of our curses. say because the new blasphemy radius is pitiful after the aoe nerf, or because we havent been hit yet so that cwdt-ball light-coh hasnt triggered yet. so in the end, I think a well-rolled doedres can compete with black sun, but the difference shouldnt be massive, neither for damage nor for ES. Last edited by Black_Gun#7476 on Mar 14, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
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So...totally new to the game but decided to roll this build for my first character partially because I really like the playstyle and partially because it's throwing up nostalgia back to my blizz Sorc in D2.
Anyways, what're the best ways to procure the gear that I need? Specifically, Whispering Ice, Astramentis, Fertile Mind, and my Agate Amulet and Cobalt Jewel? If I find a amulet/jewel without the necessary modifiers, is there a way to re-roll them? |
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" Search for them in the poe.trade You can try crafting them, yeah but i rather just buy a good one. |
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" How much should I expect to pay for them? I'm pretty poor right now since I just started up. I think the most valuable thing I have right now is a chaos orb. What are the drop rates for these items like? Is it even worth it for me to try to farm the necessary items naturally? |
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" the only item that's truly mandatory is whispering ice itself. you can get one with mediocre rolls for 1 alch. 1-2 chaos orbs should be enough to get a rare amulet with 60+ int and some str/dex to cover the stat requirements. maybe another chaos orb for a 400ish rare chest. so yeah, at this point in the league, you can start out the build with a 3c budget. that will be enough to farm dried like, where you can do the chaos recipe for a steady income of 5-8 chaos per hour. that should easily carry you into maps. |
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Okay today i bought this for 2 alcs. I really hate -light raidus of black sun. Anyway it was 1 socket and got 4 sockets with 3-4 jewels and got 2r 1b 1g in about 4-5 chroma and linked them around same number fuse. So basically it cost me around 2-3c which is a total steal :) I never used black sun so i can't compare dps and leech, but dps went off to the roof after swtiching from a bad rare. |
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Rarity: Rare
Ambush Lock Crystal Belt -------- Requirements: Level: 79 -------- Item Level: 81 -------- +78 to maximum Energy Shield -------- +57 to Intelligence +9 to Armour 1.9 Life Regenerated per second +50 to maximum Energy Shield 28% increased Stun and Block Recovery 10% increased Flask Life Recovery rate ill keep this belt until I get more currency, deafening spite doesn't come cheap |
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" You should go in perfect rolls if u want to be perfect sir :) Last edited by Sessvisto#2703 on Mar 14, 2017, 2:07:04 PM
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" Hats off to you sir! |
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I got this in like 8 chroms welp |
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