[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Black_Gun wrote:

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stingrayz wrote:

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sirHugo wrote:

The Black Sun Crest gives you up to 15% increased intelligence. Also it gives +1 on gems for for your discipline.

If you're putting it that way, with Doedre's Scorn you're also getting +2 to your curse gem, Warlord's Mark and you're getting almost 60% increase in damage with 3 curses up.

what??!!?

the %increased int mod from a black sun will in most cases give enough additional int to make up for the 150ish base ES that doedres would otherwise provide. and ofc doedres does NOT increase our damage.

Have you tried wearing a Doedre's and testing it out for yourself?

I get about 500 more ES but my I do lose out on 108 int. Damage seems to be nice with the curses up. Maybe someone else can test it out.

someone told me it's good idea to get movement skill to faster map clearing

lighting warp - less duration - faster casting - rapid decay

it is worth it to have it? i dont use leap slam actually right now

I will be using a similar setting later on, i personally feel like i dont need fortify. I already played this build several leagues before and tankiness was never an issue. I guess its personal preference.

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Xyrre wrote:

Oh i see why i got confused i didnt mean uber izaro obviously he is a joke, i'm talking about uber atziri sorry for not stating that clearer.

Ah, my bad!

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stingrayz wrote:

Have you tried wearing a Doedre's and testing it out for yourself?

I get about 500 more ES but my I do lose out on 108 int. Damage seems to be nice with the curses up. Maybe someone else can test it out.

Does the % damage per curse work? because 60% damage (with 3 curses) is HUGE, and could easily make up the difference between doedre's and black sun.

I actually try it on legacy now. I get + 700 ES and the dmg seems fine. I will try to calculate with path of building, dont know if black sun crest is better at a certain gear level. for me the doedre is acually better at this moment.

a huge plus is also the non reduced light radius :D

Never mind, solved my problem, thanks!

So...totally new to the game but decided to roll this build for my first character partially because I really like the playstyle and partially because it's throwing up nostalgia back to my blizz Sorc in D2.

Anyways, what're the best ways to procure the gear that I need? Specifically, Whispering Ice, Astramentis, Fertile Mind, and my Agate Amulet and Cobalt Jewel? If I find a amulet/jewel without the necessary modifiers, is there a way to re-roll them?

question I got doedres daming and perandus signet should I not be using both at the same time?

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stingrayz wrote:

Question would this helm be better than The Black Sun Crest? You get more energy shield and we're rocking 3 curses.

Great call. That helmet is obviously much better than BSC.

But this thread - OP included - is full of posters with closed minds.

You'll get a bunch of pushback - ignore this.

Scorn gives up to 80% increased damage

And a bunch of ES

Good luck matching that with BSC

Int gives 2% base damage per 10 intelligence from Icestorm and 1% increased damage per 10 intelligence from the WI staff.

Meanwhile, a perfectly rolled DS gives 80% increased elemental damage (assuming 3 curses active on target) and a ton of ES.

DS is easily much better than BSC except for hexproof maps/mobs.
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But...

I've found this thread full of posters who take positions and defend them at all costs.

Opening poster is among them.

So pretty much trust your own calculations/intuition - OP and many others are too invested to give objective opinions.