[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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BublasKachan wrote:

Hi. Sorry for bad English :)
Iam using this build and very like it. Thx for it.
Can you help pls.
There is my gear :

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What need upgrade next ? Its enough for Shaper ?

Your gear is better than mine in the league. You can do the Shaper easily. Of course it takes some practice.

What to upgrade? Nothing really. :)) Go for 21/20 and 20/23 gems (see the Gem section for the ideal levels/quality) and then you can start looking for a +1 curse Astra (REALLY rare and expensive, it's the ultimate upgrade).

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MrOleg wrote:

Just a small detail I noticed during leveling. For T1-T14 you don't need 3rd curse unless you are doing some crazy mods. Just carry Doedre ring with yourself and swap it with perandus signet whenever you feel like you need some extra defense.

But you don't need extra ES for T1-14 either. ;)

what about using 8 grandspectrums, vs the int gems? thats 320% more ele dmg

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MrGuardian wrote:

what about using 8 grandspectrums, vs the int gems? thats 320% more ele dmg

1. It's Increased (additive), not MORE (multiplicative).
2. Without converting Str and Dex to Int we'd lose a whole lot of Int (i.e. DPS and ES).
3. Every one of our jewels is already better than 40% inc dmg.

Got some upgrades in the last couple days, my gear is pretty much done except for +1 Astramentis and I'd like boots with Cold/Lightning Resists (i'm slightly under 75% light on T16 ele weakness)

Current Setup:





One of my favourite characters I've played. I think I will try and go for 100 on it since it can do any map up to Tier 15s easily with any mods but hexproof/bloodmagic/no leech.

Thanks for such a wonderful guide! :)

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Garnier wrote:

Got some upgrades in the last couple days, my gear is pretty much done except for +1 Astramentis and I'd like boots with Cold/Lightning Resists (i'm slightly under 75% light on T16 ele weakness)

Current Setup:

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One of my favourite characters I've played. I think I will try and go for 100 on it since it can do any map up to Tier 15s with easily with any mods but hexproof/bloodmagic/no leech.

Thanks for such a wonderful guide! :)

At first I thought this was from Standard, and then I noticed the 'Verified/Essence League' pop-ups..
Holy crap! Items like these actually exist in the temp league? :-O
Daaaaaaamn... Teach me how to get stuff like that, sir. :)))

Being slightly under cap on LR is fine. I'm running around with 73% in the league. If you roll EW or -maxres on Mino, just use PoL for him.

Technically, the Scion version is the best candidate to go for lv 100: Raider with frenzy and perma-onslaught and two Perandus signets clears much faster than the other versions and has higher xp/hr. But lv 100 is more a matter of personal dedication anyway. With enough budget you can level to 100 by just clearing T16 maps with pack size and don't even risk the boss. Most of the maps come from the trash, not the boss.

hi, was just wondering if a heretics veil would work well with this build?

Been trying for like weeks to upgrade my gear with no success, so i was wondering, would any of the other 2 variants be able to reach end game with really crappy gear instead? So far i can't even reliable do tier 10 maps with what i have on my witch version, so would like to know if the others are more durable please.

This is the gear i have so far:

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Kelvynn wrote:

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MrGuardian wrote:

what about using 8 grandspectrums, vs the int gems? thats 320% more ele dmg

1. It's Increased (additive), not MORE (multiplicative).
2. Without converting Str and Dex to Int we'd lose a whole lot of Int (i.e. DPS and ES).
3. Every one of our jewels is already better than 40% inc dmg.

oh i didnt mean more literally lol, as in the more mod i guess my bad.
doesn't one of the jewels dex to int give only 50 int tops, which is only 5%pcnt spell dmg from 1 jewel? Or i understand it wrong?

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SaintLucifer wrote:

Been trying for like weeks to upgrade my gear with no success, so i was wondering, would any of the other 2 variants be able to reach end game with really crappy gear instead? So far i can't even reliable do tier 10 maps with what i have on my witch version, so would like to know if the others are more durable please.

This is the gear i have so far:

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331 ES chest? Eep! Are you playing self-found? This build is not good for self-found, unless you craft everything yourself, or something. You can easily find better items on poe.trade for cheap. See a post 2 pages above that even has a link for chest armor search. All versions of the build require at least 20-30 chaos orbs to get to the red maps, and at least 5-6 exalts to proceed into T16 (with current prices). You can start farming Uber Lab with probably 50c worth of gear, and that'll get you the currency to proceed from there.

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MrGuardian wrote:

only 50 int tops, which is only 5%pcnt spell dmg from 1 jewel? Or i understand it wrong?

For raw DPS, 10 Int is about the same as 8-9% increased damage. But since you also get ES from Int, we consider X Int better than X inc dmg.

Write down your Icestorm tooltip and your ES with 1 empty socket.
Insert a simple 1-mod jewel that has only Int and look how your DPS and ES changes.
Insert a simple 1-mod jewel that has only dmg and look how your DPS changes.
Compare.

It's not linear because Int takes effect in the increments of 10. But you can get the idea.

Is there a place for Vaal Discipline in the build?