How is it possible for COC to be unchanged?
" A 6L and a devo make the build. Without a devo you might as well be playing melee ci. You will die, and you will die a lot without that amulet. It's painfully obvious you haven't played it. Sure a protector and a vagan dagger will make it "work" but your characters in the dumpster. The first guy was right on the money, if the build was as op and cheap as you claim it would've been nerfed along with the other 0 investment builds, but it's not. It's 20-30ex to get your foot in the door and then you take into account jewels, 6 double multi jewels can bump you up 200%. |
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" I'll have to strongly disagree. Builds I played in PSC and PHC:
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- coc cyclone EK bladefall arc CI assassin - became great with level and solid gear but I shudder to think of having to level him in HC
- barrage wand life/es hybrid assassin - was pretty good... until you suicide in offscreen reflect - earthquake (several versions): ridiculously good with with cheap items, IMO it had a better gear-efficiency ratio than the old incinerate - firestorm life/MoM chieftain: didn't expect much, turned out surprisingly good - extremely high hitpoints (13k life+mana) and still did excellent damage. Hands down better than a CoC build in terms of raw strength at a reasonable cost. - bladefall poison mine triple curse CI occultist - shockingly good. Even the clear speed was good. I knew it was a cookie cutter but I had no idea how strong it was until I tried it. And I didn't even try the strongest shit because I thought it would be boring (chaos builds, blade vortex pathfinder, spark/vaal spark and the king of ridiculousness VMS) TLDR: almost everything else I tried was stronger than CoC You have to be realistic about these things. Logen Ninefingers Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jun 1, 2016, 3:34:24 PM
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What? people play coc discharge with 5L and no voll's devotion? Why not just play any melee or split arrow blast rain and has better clear speed and better boss killing as well?
I really think there are people in here that has no clue wtf they themselves are talking about. The real hardcore PoE players and the elites sit in town and zoning in and out of their hideouts trading items. Noobs that don't know how to play PoE correctly, kill monsters for items. It's pure fact, it will never change.
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" Nah b, you heard that other guy. You can spend 15c and play discharge, most op build world. |
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" So we are balancing the game strictly on HC gear availability now? You said it yourself it becomes a leech tank, and does so without any cons to it's damage output. It also can exploit several things spell casters can't and attack based characters can't. " So like every CI build out there? There are ways to counter it besides cyclone. I played a stun recovery CI build in the past and never died to stunlock for example. " It is a build that bypasses all the negatives of a spell caster, grabs all the benefits of a attack build and then comes off dealing higher damage than most builds of both types. With a same investment most spell casters can't get the ratio of utility/damage and defense it offers. So yeah, I have a problem with it's state in the game. And please no "but bladefall/BV can compete" posts, those spells are overtuned from a mechanical point of view. [2.2] The Vampire - Tanky 2H Axe Slayer Duelist - /view-thread/1611662 Last edited by Mannoth#4185 on Jun 1, 2016, 4:41:55 PM
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" haha! Oh I can still beat that self cast. with 1alc 3L weapon that takes you into 14 maps one shotting all bosses (enfeebled even) + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlR67NtYt8&t=2m22s COC sucks Ice nova OPOPOP Anyway more serious these "cheap" CoCs cant do end game any more tthan other cheap builds. Need to spend at least 50ex to have a endgame stomper w/ CoC discharge]. Ammy alone is 25ex. 6L volls 10ex. dagger 3ex. GG ES gear 5-20ex each peice. etc/ Mines, 6L voltaxic, and trapper are way cheaper to do same thing. PS I wonder what price of volls devotion will be in new league with juggs buff 50ex? 100ex? SHould be interesting Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jun 1, 2016, 5:30:14 PM
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" Exactly. These ppl are 3 patches behind. Git R Dun!
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Just leave coc alone... I can 1 hit uber phases with my traps, yet you cry about something that's actually fun to play, alredy been nerfed multiple times, and still has some diversity?
BTW voll's ammy is so freaking overrated, i have a simple trick to have maximum endurance charges to use all da time without it, and use a better ammy.. and I've been sharing my method with people for the last 3 leagues, so i don't understand how isn't devotion an 1 chaos trash yet. Last edited by Mootthemad#0266 on Jun 1, 2016, 10:26:39 PM
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This is the easiest thread ever to answer. It is possible for CoC to remain unchanged because they didn't change it. It's a 100% possibility.
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" FU! I was about to write the same :P But on a serious note: It is possible, because GGG realized that so many people finds CoC fun, and there's honestly other skill combinations more OP, and need more work than CoC. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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