Game is too fast.

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6439759 wrote:

if the game too fast for you go try D3, i got 500 paragaon in 5 hours.. and game over, nothing else left to do... don't tell things "Too fast" before you bring things you compared with..

you can get it fairly fast but not in 5 hours

Just play a summoner and you will realize how slow the game really is .

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dickhole_mcghee wrote:

^^^Are you solo self-found as well?

Yes. Why?

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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dickhole_mcghee wrote:

^^^Are you solo self-found as well?

Yes. Why?

If you partied you'd see that a lot of these claims ITT and on these forums about dps and clearspeeds are wild exaggerations. This is coming from somebody that likes to wildly exaggerate, but good lord. It's like there's not a point worth making that isn't also worth wildly exaggerating.

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tryhardgg wrote:

Just play a summoner and you will realize how slow the game really is .

It has passed a couple of years since i havent done a summoner build (never done SRS, i just used zombies and spectres). I remember two years ago that the game was slower (a bit harder too), but with the summoner build i could keep up always vaal haste and leterally rush maps: I was low life and with Solaris Lorica, since Shavs those days were fucking costful. So, with the addition of the ascendancy class now, I cant see how the game could be "slow" with a summoner build.

By the way, Im studying a summoner not based on spectres, probably I will try it the next league. So maybe if you're right and I will feel that the game with summoner is a lot slower, then I will post excuses.

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dickhole_mcghee wrote:

If you partied you'd see that a lot of these claims ITT and on these forums about dps and clearspeeds are wild exaggerations. This is coming from somebody that likes to wildly exaggerate, but good lord. It's like there's not a point worth making that isn't also worth wildly exaggerating.

So, because you decided to play solo self-found, then everyone needs to play self-found and destroy completely the economy? Why, then, should I play to this game online anymore? Make it basically offline lol: its useless to have problems of connection if we never interact with other people.
When I say the game is too fast, I dont mean necessary that the game is too fast with insane gear bought for more than 100 exalted: of course the people who can afford the best items paying tons of currency will go faster than other, but this is not the point at all since this thing is true even if the game would be slow as fuck. The point is that a 6 link and decent gear is more than enough to go very fast. And the worst thing is that some builds can go to the same speed even without a 6 link. If you have some luck you won't even need 5-6exalted for gearing good your character and rush against pretty much everything.

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I_NO wrote:

Oh yeah I remember pre-nerfed inferno it WAS actually hard and it WAS slow as fuck unless you were a DH pre-nerfed elemental nether arrow with like 9k hp but didn't matter nether arrow did like 50000000000000 damage per second.

THAT is slow that's fucking terrible I didn't enjoy doing that.

And I actually enjoyed it!

Current ultra-fast meta just makes me cry.

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Serge91 wrote:

So, because you decided to play solo self-found, then everyone needs to play self-found and destroy completely the economy? Why, then, should I play to this game online anymore? Make it basically offline lol: its useless to have problems of connection if we never interact with other people.

Wait wat?

I didn't say I play SSF nor should the game be balanced around SSF. I was responding to the guy that plays SSF (he didn't say this either) that if played in parties (and more specifically public parties to encounter random builds) he'd see that these claims of 'everybody' doing insane dps with insane clearspeeds is sorta exaggerated.

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When I say the game is too fast, I dont mean necessary that the game is too fast with insane gear bought for more than 100 exalted: of course the people who can afford the best items paying tons of currency will go faster than other, but this is not the point at all since this thing is true even if the game would be slow as fuck. The point is that a 6 link and decent gear is more than enough to go very fast. And the worst thing is that some builds can go to the same speed even without a 6 link. If you have some luck you won't even need 5-6exalted for gearing good your character and rush against pretty much everything.

I get that. The chaos conversion stuff is crazy.

Game it's too fast and too easy...
When I join in the middle 2014 took me one entire week reach level 65, of course then I wasn't know any game mechanics, Forsaken Master was released and everything was new to me.
But I enjoy that week, every new zone to explore, find the Waypoints, unique monsters hard to kill.
Today I reach level 65 at second day (depending on how many hours could be earlier).
In perandus league I reach level 90 at third day, why bothering with the story and the acts, 2 days and I was doing maps, 3 days and I was doing T13 maps... I dont like the new direction of Path of Exile.

Another point of the insane speed is When you play with others there are tons of builds that end up doing nothing because by the time they cast or attack the pack has already been one shot by the person your playing with.
Case in point
Me - Chaos Ice trapper
Friend 1 - curse and support specalist
Friend 2 - Sparker
Friend 3 - COC Wander
Friend 4 - Blade Vortex
Friend 6 - was a lower level guild mate we were helping lvl up etc

We were running t12-14 maps with corrupt or chaos mods added to every map and for the vast majority of the time I would throw my traps and while they were in the air the mobs would end up being dead by the time they hit the ground so Kinda pointless!

The wander would just point somewhere offscreen and cast and would insta fill back up kinda stupid when you haven't even engaged seen the mobs yet to have them die offscreen.

About the only time my skills were utilized were on boxes and perendus packs and bosses.

Now granted 5/6 were high level end game builds capable of pretty much 1 shotting any pack it just takes the fun out of it.

Another point of the overdone speed of skills is it makes it feel bad to use multiple skills, Would anyone really bother casting a curse manually? Even on my current build ED contagion wither witch I don't bother dropping the totem for wither 90% of the time because it takes longer to cast that and then kill than to just kill the mob.

Forget playing any skill that takes time to ramp up damage as well in party play, Flame blast? Firestorm? Whispering Ice? by the time you cast it and get it going the mobs are already dead.

There are quite a few other scenarios I could list with similar consequences as well.

Here are 2 options that could make it feel better with less ability to 1 shot everything.

1) Make mobs harder to kill by upping their defense/health (increase reward for them to compensate for the slower time, Most of the arguments for increasing speed is to be able to farm faster and more effectively)

2) Make mobs harder to kill by upping their defense/health - Don't increase the rewards for killing them but change mob density and add way more mobs to the map. Apex of sacrifice is the perfect example to this. That Density is just fun!

End game doesn't really get harder it just gets boring and your forced to play super fast if you want to level past 90.

Last thing is Please don't address this by adding a speed trap mechanic that 1 shots you w/o any way to counter/avoid it. (ie old lighting thorns offscreen)

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dickhole_mcghee wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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dickhole_mcghee wrote:

^^^Are you solo self-found as well?

Yes. Why?

If you partied you'd see that a lot of these claims ITT and on these forums about dps and clearspeeds are wild exaggerations. This is coming from somebody that likes to wildly exaggerate, but good lord. It's like there's not a point worth making that isn't also worth wildly exaggerating.

??? what the hell are you basing this on. some random scrub dl parties? if you go to a public party that runs high level maps (t11+) you're not gonna do SHIT unless your effective range covers at least the whole screen. if you're melee, tough shit. you're not touching anything.

i hate public parties because of this. the only reason i occasionally join them is because i like the concept of an aurabot and have one of those for myself. and it obviously can't run maps solo. on that note, one of my previous setups was using dying breath and i was actually struggling to keep up with the parties when everyone either had million movespeed or dagger and whirling blades.