Im new, Marauder is Overpowered. This Game is AWESOME!

Why would anyone play any other class? I've spent hours dabbling over ranger,duelist and marauder skill trees.. i find no reason to play other class other than marauder.

you can grab the MOST hp nodes as a marauder.

the Evasion system is crap because we'll always get hit.
Its all about HP and weapon themselves gives enough damange, why would anyone roll any other class with strength giving extra damage and not dex, with iron grip if you wanna use bow.


Marauder passive tree is so OP they can get both sides of HP regen and also grab everything you want if you want to play bow and have enough dex to equip

High hp bow user sweeping maps gg everything you ever wanted as a imbalance god farmer. why witch or ranger?

movement speed in this game is crap with all the flask giving you move speed half the shitstones in ranger tree is useless.

An elitist will almost always chooses Marauder over any other class to start as , with iron grip and resolute technique rendering dex as a useless stats. a Marauder grabbing all the HP nodes and leather and steel + Iron reflex.

The problem with this game is that Damage is not a problem, you dont need any Damage key stones to kill mobs. This is stupid, why roll anything other than marauder. Why do you need to play any other build at all? i bet they cannot balance PVP forever because of the huge imbalance in the marauder tree and that leap skill without cool down. range is totally useless, even marauder can use range. tell me something about marauder doesnt have that another class have and is better than marauder in any aspect.

my suggestion is to give each class a starting unique attribute and penalty. Marauder have 5% more HP while moves -50% slower due to its imbalance nodes around him.

Ranger naturally have a 15% dodge rate etc etc... right now i dont see any difference starting as any class except to grab the nodes you want, those starting stats is too irrelevant.

>Build a physical bow marauder
>Kill nothing end game
>Delete your post

i wouldnt whine if marauder kill nothing end game lol

sorry but a bow marauder taking alot of HP nodes is still able to sweep at lvl 80+ using lighting arrow or whatever split arrow build.


Im new but i did my research, tqvm. there is absolutely no perks starting as a ranger, just takes a longer road to build up the HP nodes. This is solely because evasion , dodge is completely useless the way the mechanics of evasion works right now

marauder can also have the equivalent or even more damage than ranger because of iron grip. and at 80+ if your hp is around 4-5k, having 3-4% Hp regen is IMBA. so marauder is still the best to reach that.
please dont comment if you are a n00b. atleast i did my research.


*please consider HC mode. if you just wanan keep respawn and sweep and die thats wasting time.

mara is op, game does not suck. In true endgame witches and shadows smash it, but mara starting is so joke op.

Ok pro OP. Show me a physical split arrow marauder doing well end game, or a thread about it.

Well, although you're unnecessarily aggressive in your approach, you are partially correct. However, it is the GGG philosophy to let every class use any skill if attribute conditions are met, hence the caster marauders and melee witches being possible builds. This approach has advantages and disadvantages. Given the prevalence of HP as the primary defence stat, it's all natural for the marauder part of the tree to be the most convenient. I hope the game will see a constant balancing process and classes would be made more unique too, but there's little hope for the last part I think...

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FatHuntresS wrote:

i wouldnt whine if marauder kill nothing end game lol

sorry but a bow marauder taking alot of HP nodes is still able to sweep at lvl 80+ using lighting arrow or whatever split arrow build.


Im new but i did my research, tqvm. there is absolutely no perks starting as a ranger, just takes a longer road to build up the HP nodes. This is solely because evasion , dodge is completely useless the way the mechanics of evasion works right now

marauder can also have the equivalent or even more damage than ranger because of iron grip. and at 80+ if your hp is around 4-5k, having 3-4% Hp regen is IMBA. so marauder is still the best to reach that.
please dont comment if you are a n00b. atleast i did my research.


*please consider HC mode. if you just wanan keep respawn and sweep and die thats wasting time.

Evasion and dodge are far from useless. Thanks.

Have you ever seen Nugiyen stream? he is a ranger with 5.3k health, using BM and iron grip and wrecks everything with no trouble. Yes it may be true mara has a lot of hp nodes early game but anyone can easily get enough nodes to have over 5k hp. It is how you play your character and which skills you use that make one character more dominant than another.

It is nugiyen's stream that i watched and concluded that using a similar build he might as well start off as a maurauder, look at how nugiyen branched his skill tree all the way up towards marauders left side area just to grab all those HP nodes. it took him alot of points to reach all the way to the top left nodes. he is wrecking mobs with near NO damage+ nodes thats what im complaining about, damage comes majority from your weapon and strength. it is easier to reach what he is doing with marauder. he uses iron grip too, why start as ranger when ur not making use of dodge and stuffs , all his points are at the left side. geez and its HC mode, try playing dodge/evasion in HC mode lol.

dont tell me evasion and dodge is not useless compare to Hp and armor rating(iron reflex).

i still suggest each class have a natural bonus instead of just being minor stats different and graphic difference. if not then everyone should start of as a marauder.

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oxbin wrote:

Ok pro OP. Show me a physical split arrow marauder doing well end game, or a thread about it.

go watch nugiyen and see his skill tree, he is a marauder just using the name "ranger"
he has almost no + damage nodes , i said almost. 80% are hp/tank nodes. TQVM


get my point already. Classes have no different other than the irrelevant minor stats different , it merely conclude where you start in the passive skill tree, and Marauders have an advantage over ALL other class. merely because Hp is the most important nodes of all and they have access to all of it thus making them the strongest because 4% hp regen at 5k hp is imba and the flexibility to be anything they want because weapon/armor has no class restriction. Marauder lack of damage is almost made up by their 250-300 str , the only stats that give bonus damage is STR. What other class beats this str class? None. no nada, i have bonus damage and awesome HP. i havent mention leather and steel and iron reflex, which marauder has access to.

STR(dmg) + Iron reflex + Leather & Steel+ Iron grip + range(bow?) = super armor super hp nodes , fair amount of damage + 3%+ Regen. None can beat this. NONE. Not your stupid evasions or dodge. not your weak ass intelligent class. all of those frozen effect can be canceled by pressing flask, marauder will rule your world, there is no advantage using other class. in PVP marauder will rule your world, in PVE marauder will rule your world. in HC mode marauder will rule your world.


If you can give me one reason why i should not start as a Marauder at lvl 80+ end game especially, i delete my post. Im talking about end game. and remember, Marauder is just a name, i can go full damage if i want to(but we dont need damage nodes to be OP), those HP nodes at the start may just be the bare minimum, so classes have no difference at all just names. its the positioning in the passive skill tree that matters.