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Add chaos orbs to vendors sell list (1 regal per orb)

Perhaps, some of Zana (& other masters) mods should cost regals instead of chaoses? Regal are so dirt cheap because they have a large supply, but dont have a real sink.
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Funny thing is, i literally never do regal recipe, ever. I actually wouldnt mind that being added to the vendor for chaos because lets be real here, chaos spamming is almost always better than trying to regal craft now (especially for jewelry).

Reason i never do the regal recipe is because i generally keep 1 tab of unided rings, belts, amulets. I prefer chaos over regals any day. I dont have the space for regals on top of chaos recipes because im such a damn hoarder now that id need more tabs, but even if i got more tabs i wouldnt do it because i find that doing Ided recipes is a waste of time and space in general, im not going to not ID anything ilvl 75+ because those items have a good chance at rolling well.
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Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Apr 17, 2016, 4:53:06 PM
Zana mods should use the following 7 currencies: Chromatic, Fusing, Blessed, Regal, GCP, Divine, Exalted. That would provide a mapping currency sink opportunity for pretty much every currency.

Not so keen on OP's suggestion. Don't really hate it, just don't really like it either. Not a -1, but a +0.
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Argwain wrote:
@PhoenixFlame, I think you are missing the point of my argument. We are talking about the chaos orbs and regals from the vendor recepie. The problem is that regals are implied to be more rewarding than chaos orbs.

Pretty simple logic: you farm higher zone = better reward; you farm lower zone = worse reward. This relation of chaoses and regals is built into the game. Its forced by the recepies.

The problem here is that this foreceful implicit relation does not necessarily reflect the market desire. In other words I get a too-good-item from high zone and want to downgrade it.

You have to understand that I am not trying to trade one currency for another here. I am talking about a regal orb, as an upgrade of a chaos orb.(if you dont see it this way, then there is no point to argue here, end of discussion) In both cases you vendor the same rare items, just different ilvl. There is no change in your mapping/looting behaviour. In low map u get chaos, in high map u get regal. Its absolutely deterministic and has nothing to do with rng for currency drop. I just feel stupid, when i get something more rewarding in a lower area than in a higher area.


I was quoting Kamil, not you. I agree with your assessment.
No change is required, we don't need vendor recipe for everything.
There is already a solution and you explained it, put an item lvl60-74 to downgrade to chaos, this is what I'm doing and it works like a charm.

On the other hand, I'd rather prefer to see more love for regal, it's not (or seldom?) used for master crafting / zana.
I prefer swapping regal recipe vs chaos ones. Why? you always regal first b4 chaos. So it makes perfect sense that regal is lesser orb compared to Chaos.


And as well as changing all forsaken master crafting/vendor that cost chaos to regal.
that means there will be nothing that cost chaos from forsaken master.

This should create a reasonable sink for regal

Last edited by Darkkrows#6635 on Apr 17, 2016, 10:13:48 PM
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PhoenixFlame wrote:
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kamil1210 wrote:
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- Regals drop in price nearly 1:1 with chaos orb. (which is natural and I don't mind)


You want to set item on price for ever becasue it happened that now it is worth said ammont.

No, thanks.


Can you please clarify this? Are saying that the chaos orb's value can never change because it will be worth the identical price of a regal orb? If so, that is simply not true. Chaos orb value in relation to Exalteds, fusing, and alts fluctuate all the time. Them having an identical price to another currency item wont change this.




Op want to set price 1 chaos = 1 regal. Because 1 chaos is worth 1 regal NOW.
Price changes over time and chaos might be not worth 1 regal in 2 weeks.
Puttng X price tag forever on item becasue it is worth X at one moment is stupid.

This also apply to every post there with solution for actual "problem" with regal:chaos price
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Last edited by kamil1210#5432 on Apr 18, 2016, 1:47:26 AM
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
Zana mods should use the following 7 currencies: Chromatic, Fusing, Blessed, Regal, GCP, Divine, Exalted. That would provide a mapping currency sink opportunity for pretty much every currency.

Not so keen on OP's suggestion. Don't really hate it, just don't really like it either. Not a -1, but a +0.
Actually, I forgot about Regrets. So add that to the list and drop either Divine or Exalted (still keep one of them).
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kamil1210 wrote:
Op want to set price 1 chaos = 1 regal. Because 1 chaos is worth 1 regal NOW.
Price changes over time and chaos might be not worth 1 regal in 2 weeks.
Puttng X price tag forever on item becasue it is worth X at one moment is stupid.

This also apply to every post there with solution for actual "problem" with regal:chaos price


He doesn't. He wants to set 1 regal >= 1 chaos. Which is a difference. So if the price in the future goes to 1 regal = 2 chaos, no one will use the recipe any longer.

The price for a regal will not drop significantly under 1 chaos in the current situation either, because anyways, you can choose between chaos and regal orbs when doing the recipe, and the recipe is probably the main source of these orbs. It would just be a quality-of-life improvement.

BTW, such "lower limits" for prices already exist, for example 2 scour >= 1 regret.
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Regal should never be worth less than a chaos. This is one of the ways of solving the problem (sufficient, for now).

For all the people protesting to "setting the price" - 1 fuse can never be worth more than 8 alts (doesn't mean that they won't be people trying to list then for more... lol). Because vendor recipe. Why aren't you protesting on this?
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