Speed Running Labyrinth for Helm Enchants Feels Pointless

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Manator wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

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Manator wrote:

Also difference between 91 and 92 is miserable, but between 91 and 100 is tremendous.

in power terms there is deminishing difference.
gl there. why do you need 100? what goal it has?
when playing hc leveling a family of specialized toons is only way. mf toon, atziri toon, party 13+ meta runner.

Because its top level, reason to play, something that you want to accomplish, something you will remember, something that is not for everyone. Hope now its much clearer.

And it is a CHAR not a fucking toon.

it gives nothing. just grindfest for number
seems legit.
you can kill uber at 90 same way you do it 100
zero difference

del

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mezmery wrote:

it gives nothing. just grindfest for number
seems legit.
you can kill uber at 90 same way you do it 100
zero difference

This game is one massive grindfest. Why are you here then?
Must apologize but I cannot force myself to continue discussion with people who refuse accept different people with different approach and goals. I've stated my opinion, you did the same. Was nice to meet you, but now I must excuse, need to do few more useless lab runs.

These guys might disagree with you OP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4bwuhh/voc_explains_how_he_generated_a_stable_passive/

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_ly wrote:

These guys might disagree with you OP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4bwuhh/voc_explains_how_he_generated_a_stable_passive/

No, GGG create it exactly for there ppl. Not for you or anyone players, only for them and alike ppl. You just dont it, but if you legit player and not use bot or have 1 spare month to waste - then lab not for you.

Enhancement system worst one, it only helps for scams and non legit players, but left to nothing to normal players and drive away from game forever.

I can understand that individual helmet enchantments works really well for market. For example we have so many good and rare uniques which are sold only for 1 chaos or less and better rolls usually determinates more desirable pieces. This is great solution at least for helmets, boots and gloves when enchantments could make your item more desirable for certain people.

But the problem is that you are unable to get desired helmet enchantment yourself even if you put a lot affort into it unless you are incredibly lucky. Otherwise you will burn out in frustration. Why is this problem?

1. Your creativity is limited by others and their opinion on what is valuable. Desired mod could be rarely used trash and you won't find it on market because everyone reroll it in order to make real profit.

2. It will be hard to get specific helmet with specific enchantment. Lets say you have helmet with perfect mods working for your build (not a general one) and you would like to get specific enchantment on it. Well right now It's not an option.

3. There are people who don't like trading, because they rather spend their time by fighting monsters even tho it's uneffective way how to play the game. Now you are forcing them to trade in order to enjoy ascendency benefits as others do.


Also there is lack of transparency on how enchantment crafting works. Is there really attribute restriction or is it only me getting only str skill benefits on int/dex helmet?

this is funny

people cant hide behind the 'its not optional' thing anymore. the helm enchant is as optional as they come. you never NEED it, especially in todays game's state. it's simply a perfectionist thing.

people say they dont enjoy running lab for enchantments. yet they are still doing it. question is, why? it's irrational. it's stupid. why are you doing something not fun for you ? especially something entirely optional ?

let me take a WILD guess here- the answer is most likely 'because I WANTZ IT'. well, so what ? why does everything in a game has to be shortly obtainable ? why cant there be something that takes very long to obtained, entirely optional, and only meant for dedicated grinders who like grinding/running the lab ?

people are MAD AS FUCK they cant brute force the enchant they want on the helm after a number of short runs. it was designed that way for a reason. in comparison, its extremely trivial to get an enchant on boots, that would be nearly almost universally useful.

but NO, people are like 'I CANNOT have some things in the game not obtainable by ME'. because I I I I I

Awesome to read some comments, i never thought that fanboyz so strong in PoE... this is not funny anymore, how there fans could defend absolutely horrible design as now we have enhancement on helmet, maybe they all sadists? Or into masochism? I cannot tell if it's they way to troll or seriously think make inaccessible and illegal helping/promoting and even forcing to use illegal things as something good, oblivious that it only helps some group monopolize and make any stupid price they want as VOC and his team did. Also it only drive players to use bots (its super bad, but not for fanboyz who liked that stupid enhancement grind) as labs such a stupid and boring thing that it makes no sense to HUMANS "farm" enhancement and yes enhancement REQUIRED already, you cant say that 10 skill points not need when you can get them, same with enhancement on helmet special if we compare that speed meta and PVP.

Sometimes i think that there fanboyz just rmt sellers or into masochism. Not sure why they want game more time wasting useless grind then it is, just no idea.

I think they should do a weighting to a gem thats in the helm, so lets say i want inc temp chains effect, i put inc temp chains in helm take out other gems and i get a 1:50 shot at the enchant i want, still a grind but maybe about 5 hrs with a fast runner. Right now it suits enchants on good bases, good for being an early seller.

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Manator wrote:

fuck yourself please, I'm out.

ya seriously, Im close to the point of giving up running the lab at all, its absolutely pointless.

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morbo wrote:

Still, doing this the SF way is horrible. Trading is the only way to go, if you care for your sanity.

wtt my hat for a hat with exactly the same stats on exactly the same base that has a mod that is useful for my build. pst.




yeah about that....



its fucking retarded and needs changed.