When will Labyrinth be nerfed for non-elite players to get Ascendancy classes?

Comprosmise would be, only just adding checkpoints for each Izaro encounter.
Would save time in case you die out of your control (DC/Freeze/lag/Crash) or you had a bad day.
Even Arcade games had checkpoints where you start from, and the lab is supposed to be an Arcade or Jump & Run ;)

It doesn't need to be nerfed casuals just need experience. Its like Domino when everyone thought he was hard and waited till 80-85 to do him, then after with some experience everyone just did him easy. Atziri is same way BTW. I remember when she first came out I failed like 3-4 times. Now I can do her easy with a Tabula Rasa junk chest and most builds out there.

My only genuine issue is trying to do it with a CI/Low Life character (not because its more difficult per say, but you don't gear anywhere near as much leeway for mistakes as pure life.)

Other than that its quite easy, here on hardcore a week or so ago on my first character since nemi (on my first time seeing Izaro, first time seeing the trials, and first time seeing the lab) i was able to complete both the normal and cruel labyrinths before ripping to the second time i had faced Malachai.

It really isn't that difficult.

Check reddit for the daily lab layout posts.
Traps a problem? You can use all movement abilities to warp/jump through the traps (and with Leap Slam you don't take damage while in the air and can skip most by jumping two or three times straight into the traps and through them)
Izaro shouldn't be an issue at all, he was w/o a doubt (for me) the easiest part of the lab. Try to roll near max rolls for life/es on all of your gear, make sure your resistances are capped, carry a granite and dodge the easily telegraphed moves. Maybe throw in a whirling blades with fortify for additional reduced damage and if all else fails get boosted.

The labyrinth boss is a gear and build check. The traps...generally if you fail at them you're not very good at video games. There is no need to nerf it.
With that being said I cant stand the labyrinth. GGG's servers are way way too flaky and to get booted when you're 3/4 done especially on a lower level character that isn't raping everything in seconds is really frustrating.
That and it's just a terrible concept. It's not fun, its a chore. I will probably farm it for + spark enchant on my helm but not cuz I like it. Cuz I have to.
Then theres the fact the odds of getting the enchant I want are miserable...no no no, the Lab sucks!

MAYBE if the loot in this game didn't suck ass, I would like it. The theoretical potential for loot reward at the end is there. But it doesn't happen. Typical PoE loot drops ( garbage). Every single yellow that drops isn't even low roll good. It's all badly itemized straight to vender for alt frags ( or hold onto for unid 2x chaos recipe) and this includes the labs rewards. LAME.

Far from an elite player. I can survive lab no problem. Kill what's-his-face no problem.

But the Mario Bros traps and the 1-in-72 zaquadbillion billion (x infinity) that you'll get a useful enchant for your build is not fun.

Sure hope GGG at the very least narrows down this enchant system. I'd really like to hang out in the lab more but it just sucks so much.

Why not just a ton of mobs or increasingly hard mobs or......anything but this Mario Bros stuff.

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roteleks wrote:

But the Mario Bros traps and the 1-in-72 zaquadbillion billion (x infinity) that you'll get a useful enchant for your build is not fun.

Amen.

I wish all those tryhards that complain that the game is too eay would try labyrinth with a CI or low-life char.

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Marlexyz wrote:

I wish all those tryhards that complain that the game is too eay would try labyrinth with a CI or low-life char.

Already did it with a CI character. You have to go slower than with a life character but its still not hard.

Almost all bosses in normal and cruel are gear/character checks. If you are doing everything right, but still being smashed, then its your character.

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Telzen wrote:

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Marlexyz wrote:

I wish all those tryhards that complain that the game is too eay would try labyrinth with a CI or low-life char.

Already did it with a CI character. You have to go slower than with a life character but its still not hard.

Totally agree with that.
I'm not speed running the lab, just doing it fast, always looking for Argus' Key and not using specifics items. I'm Farming the lab for an enchant.
Today, i'm 2nd & 3rd on the board - maybe my ranking will decrease later - and i made it with 1 CI & 1 low-life char. By low-life, i mean i got 10hp remaining, it can't save me.