Sneaky Trade Scam Attempt

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krakerman wrote:

It's one thing to make an offer (hey, I'd love to buy XYZ for 3ex), but it's entirely another thing to lie (hey, I'd love to buy XYZ listed for 3ex, when it is actually listed for 4ex). The fact that you don't understand the difference is sad.

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diablofdb wrote:

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krakerman wrote:

It's one thing to make an offer (hey, I'd love to buy XYZ for 3ex), but it's entirely another thing to lie (hey, I'd love to buy XYZ listed for 3ex, when it is actually listed for 4ex). The fact that you don't understand the difference is sad.

No I do understand what you mean but again, if the guy do not check at his price. HIS OWN PRICE HE SETTED HIMSELF. It's his own fault, not mine.


"hey hey comeback I've listed it at 5c" "yeah and my offer you can clearly read it at 2c"

Too bad you've accepted the trade now it's too late, you've made the choice to accept it. This is no scam this is a fair offer. It was wrote, then you saw my currency in the trade inventory pannel and you accepted.

What is Scam is people overpricing their items and getting mad when people dare bargaining.

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diablofdb wrote:

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krakerman wrote:

It's one thing to make an offer (hey, I'd love to buy XYZ for 3ex), but it's entirely another thing to lie (hey, I'd love to buy XYZ listed for 3ex, when it is actually listed for 4ex). The fact that you don't understand the difference is sad.

No I do understand what you mean but again, if the guy do not check at his price. HIS OWN PRICE HE SETTED HIMSELF. It's his own fault, not mine.


"hey hey comeback I've listed it at 5c" "yeah and my offer you can clearly read it at 2c"

Too bad you've accepted the trade now it's too late, you've made the choice to accept it. This is no scam this is a fair offer. It was wrote, then you saw my currency in the trade inventory pannel and you accepted.

What is Scam is people overpricing their items and getting mad when people dare bargaining.

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Picksomecardz wrote:

Just to clarify, I absolutely hate trading. I spend as little time maintaining my shop as possible, price things lower than anyone else, and almost never come back with a counter-offer. I've had people make honest offers at 50% what I've listed it for and sold it without saying a word. Trading is a way for me to get the minimal amount of currency I need to map/roll chests, and I never make it more. I would have been fine with 4 chaos, probably 3 chaos, if he made an actual offer. What he did was basically walk into a store, put his own price tag on it, then try to pay without mentioning it/playing dumb.

And I also give HUGE leeway to non-English speakers, as I know many people aren't from America originally. I'm not sure if this guy was a native speaker, but if you could read his name, which I blacked out, it would be obvious that he has at the very minimum a moderate mastery of the language.

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diablofdb wrote:

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Picksomecardz wrote:

Just to clarify, I absolutely hate trading. I spend as little time maintaining my shop as possible, price things lower than anyone else, and almost never come back with a counter-offer. I've had people make honest offers at 50% what I've listed it for and sold it without saying a word. Trading is a way for me to get the minimal amount of currency I need to map/roll chests, and I never make it more. I would have been fine with 4 chaos, probably 3 chaos, if he made an actual offer. What he did was basically walk into a store, put his own price tag on it, then try to pay without mentioning it/playing dumb.

And I also give HUGE leeway to non-English speakers, as I know many people aren't from America originally. I'm not sure if this guy was a native speaker, but if you could read his name, which I blacked out, it would be obvious that he has at the very minimum a moderate mastery of the language.

I still think you are wrong, the guy offered you 4c for something you've listed at 5c it's just 1c lower than what you wanted for it. You could have said well it's just 1c ok.

Or, no I've listed it at 5c and I will only sell it at 5c. Then the guy would have to think about it, he might have even say ok 5c good enough.

But no you have to feel all offended because the guy bargain.

Now the guy just go back to POETRADE and have the choice with 280 other items just like yours.

This is not a scam you got mad over nothing xD

if the guy has one hour ahead just to trade and is willing to try to bargain and gets low price he will eventually meet his guy. There is always someone who is in a hurry and need currency.

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krakerman wrote:

So straight up lying to someone is 'bargaining' to you? Again, this isn't bargaining or whatever you are trying to claim, it is 100% dishonesty and attempting to scam someone. You either know the difference and are trolling, or you are just part of the problem and somehow can't understand it.

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diablofdb wrote:

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krakerman wrote:

So straight up lying to someone is 'bargaining' to you? Again, this isn't bargaining or whatever you are trying to claim, it is 100% dishonesty and attempting to scam someone. You either know the difference and are trolling, or you are just part of the problem and somehow can't understand it.

No what I am saying is, if the guy don't check his own price, the item he put himself on sale and don't double check it and do the trade blindy. It's his own fault

stop calling that lying while the other guy made a clear textual offer, it's not lying it's wrote he offered 4c you got 4c don't get mad for it after.

I bargain on every deal I do in POE because people just keep overpricing every single item they try to sell.

And I will keep bargaining my way everytime I have to trade.

Sometime I take my time. Trying half an hour until I meet the guy who will accept my offer.

Btw crying a river and calling people trolls because they don't agree with you don't mean you are right.

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krakerman wrote:

It is lying because he is telling the seller it is listed for a price it clearly isn't listed for. Yes, the seller should check and verify the price, in large part because there are tons of people in this game who lie to get a better deal. This is 100% not bargaining. It's 100% lying. The fact that you don't understand this probably says a lot about you as a person. I'm out of this conversation, because you clearly aren't going to admit that this is lying and dishonest when it most certainly is.