Softcore is not softcore

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jrk14 wrote:

i think that the xp loss should be relative to the possible xp gain, i only play hardcore but really when u get high enough level the xp is bad but the risk is still there. so some scrubcore player dies and loses all his daily/weekly work, and that's just sad. will it really be ok when your lv99 and it takes you 3 months to get that 15% and you lose it all from some mad corps exploding bitch instantly? if you make it all proportional you could lose XXX% of the xp you would get from the killing the mob so the scrubs could die to 1/~10000 mobs and still gain xp at higher lvls.

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JudgeDuck wrote:

The forever grind is the reason games stay interesting, well, forever. Because it allows you to always have progression and something to aim for. It works really well for games like League of Legends where they release characters more often than a casual player can make the points to buy them. It works in world of tanks where you'd have to play for years to unlock every tank and it works in Eve Online where you'll probably never get every skill. :p

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bhavv wrote:

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solistus wrote:

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Serous wrote:

Cosidering that virtually every build is encouraged to take health ( unless you're playing summoner, and even then... ), I don't see where the build diversity is.

Hint: it's in all the things you take *other than HP*.

So you take 90-95% health nodes, and then one or two weapon or spell damage nodesand you think you are being different?

Looks like just another HP stacker to me.

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solistus wrote:

That's a ridiculous exaggeration. It's not even possible to take 90-95% hp nodes.

If you don't think there is healthy build diversity in this game, I don't even know what to say. You must not be playing the same game as I am. Aside from the people who copy cookie cutter builds from a forum thread or famous streamer, I don't see anyone running identical builds at endgame.

Every build needs enough defense and hp, but that's what I mean by not wanting infinite build diversity. If you want to completely disregard the main stat that determines how long you can stay alive, without doing something like CI + ES stacking that makes up for this obvious and massive deficiency in your plan, expect to die a lot.

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bhavv wrote:

Im doing CI + ES stacking.

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tobes111 wrote:

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ReZar wrote:

I only play in Default but I approve of the death penalty since it makes it more interesting.

How so?

Get life and ES nodes only and no glass cannons?

Wiping 3 hours of work when you are level 65+ during merciless runs?

Anti-fun if you ask me.

Probably why the player base will dwindle...

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simpler wrote:

I know that Path of Exile is suppose to be a hard and "unforgiving" game but losing experience when you die doesn't fit in softcore.

1.) I play softcore because I can't handle the stress of never dying. I just want to log on and whether I play for 20 minutes or several hours have fun and feel like I'm progressing with my character. But with the experience loss on death I can never relax. I know we all play games for different reasons, some play to challenge themself and some play just to relax and have a great time not feeling any stress.

I thought that's why there is a Softcore and a Hardcore league. To have something for both of those groups, but now whith this severe death penalty the casuals have no where to enjoy themself.

2.) It removes build deversity. Glasscannon builds are not as viable and you allways need to play defensive and not take any risks.


I understand that there must be some penalty on death but losing 15% of the progression to the next level is way to much.

Don't tell me to go play LoL or something, I really enjoy this game but getting the feeling of wasting my time every time I die is really harsh. Right now it's more like Less-Hardcore and Hardcore league.

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simpler wrote:

Glasscannon builds are not as viable