List your AH fears

List your AH fears here and let's try to break and clear them up.

After playing couple of games with an AH I noticed the following facts, which I disliked and fear for them to reoccur, if PoE establishes and AH:

- Meta Items, used in promoted builds will get very expensive, because flipping is made easy.
-> New players can't play the buid of the week, for example.
-> I will have to invest more, when trying out some popular builds.

-Useful leveling Items will get very cheap and very hard to sell because of the huge supply.
-> I earn quite some chaos, selling leveling items like Goldrims or Wanderlust. The items are great and have a huge value to the levelling player, no need to get them for "free" (even though, if I see its a new player i often gifted them, but that's another story and part of socialization).

- The most effective way to earn currency will narrow down to playing the AH.
-> The span between the average player, seeking joy in the game and the guys playing Wallstreet in terms of networth will increase.
-> I will spend more and more time on the AH and less playing the game.

- External software for efficent AH scanning will get more demand.
-> New rules in terms of 3rd party software influencing the game directly will have to be set up by GGG, looking at current terms regarding Macros, I don't think the terms will be clear within reasonable time (who can tell me if a macro'd key to use and ID scroll is legal?)
-> Scanning Software such as Auctioneer in WoW for example where often subject to scams, tojans, etc.
-> Established Databases were traded for real Money (WoW, D3), because they are the key to effectively scanning and trending items.

- The socialization will decrease.
-> I like to haggle.
-> I like to think about builds that my trade partner might be playing after she/ he purchased a specific item or jewel. Sometimes we start chatting. One of my former customers is a mapping friend to me nowadays.
-> I like to show off my hideout.

-Where will the items be stored, which you want to sell? In the AH itsself?
-> GGG will earn less money from stash tab sales (all my donations went towards tab for now). -> less money for the server

Please do not establish a typical WoW-style AH. Thank you.

please not a AH...
just do a poe.trade tab into the game over the ui...

Concept:
1. Rightclick Stashtab and click the Checkbox "Offer in AH"
2. Open Stashtab and [Key]+Right Click on the Item -> pop up "Offering Price"

Over a Hotkey you can Open the "AH" and search for the item INGAME (!) and if the player is only you can write him!

Sounds cool right? No third Party and easy to handle W/O the loss of player interactivity!

@Xracks:
Suggested something similar here quite a while ago: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1401822

I want to quote Vio from this thread here, who brought up a very reasonable argument against an implementation of poe.trade into the core game:

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vio wrote:

integrating ressources outside the power of ggg into the game? no go.
(...)
reason: it opens a attack vector to the majority of poe players if someone is able to spread customized binaries over that site.

I am sure GGG will come up with a method of easier ingame trading and not having an AH on day ;)

Don't have a fear because there won't ever be one.

Not really fear. It's a preference. Some people like easy access to what ever item them want. Others want to play the role of a provider of those items. An auction house favors one style of play at the removal of the other.

Players have access to items... it's just not easy access. So they're currently only asking for an improvement. That (small) improvement would make the other players game simply end. Not an equitable trade.

What we need is a system that would make both roles better... something that both buyer and seller would benefit from. An email system (which has been suggested time and time again) would be great for both parties.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

An email system (which has been suggested time and time again) would be great for both parties.

Sounds like a downgrade over what we currently have

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RandallPOE wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

An email system (which has been suggested time and time again) would be great for both parties.

Sounds like a downgrade over what we currently have

Everyone's welcome to their opinions.

I think that having to leave what you're doing to deal with a trade is too intrusive to make it worth doing. With an email system, traders could tend trades when they felt like it. Impatient buyers would be able to find people who were more "active" by paying better and thus rewarding the active seller over the "busy" one. Having this option would make both types of sellers happy. The only people who would be bothered by it are the buyers who want instant gratification with no interaction with the seller. We've been told that's not happening.

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I_NO wrote:

Don't have a fear because there won't ever be one.