List your AH fears

AH fear ?

Why would I fear something that will never happen ?
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:
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jooozek wrote:
Trading is the cancer that makes me log off most time.


I see this comment and others as trying to shift things to trade vs SF.


https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/55102/

Here are the very first two lines for those not willing to go to the link:

"Path of Exile’s economy is the most important element of the game to us. It’s why we designed it to be played exclusively online."

Sorry self-founders PoE isn't the game for you. With that being said lets move this back to AH vs no AH.


What does solo self-found have to do with my post? I'm just saying that impossible interactions with people who never come online preventing me from getting gear preventing me from progressing is the cancer that makes me log off most time.
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deathflower wrote:
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:
Sorry self-founders PoE isn't the game for you. With that being said lets move this back to AH vs no AH.


Doesn't matter if you win the argument. GGG pretty much state they wouldn't ever implement one. Even if you have a thousand and one good reasons for it, it hardly matter when it would never happen, does it?


An AH in the classical sense no. An in game marketplace yes, yes they will. There is a post from Chris just this month saying it is still on the way.
Keep PoE2 Difficult.
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:
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deathflower wrote:
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:
Sorry self-founders PoE isn't the game for you. With that being said lets move this back to AH vs no AH.


Doesn't matter if you win the argument. GGG pretty much state they wouldn't ever implement one. Even if you have a thousand and one good reasons for it, it hardly matter when it would never happen, does it?


An AH in the classical sense no. An in game marketplace yes, yes they will. There is a post from Chris just this month saying it is still on the way.


It is far from that. I think They only say they are gonna improve trading functionality and introduce asynchronous trading. Where did this in-game marketplace come from?
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:


You are the definition of someone who would be better off on standard. None of the things you listed are problems for trading there.


Lol wait? How did anything I said make you think, hm that's what standards like. Standard is unbalanced as crap requires ZERO skill play because theres tons of legacy items that they refuse to nerf for whatever reason. I still have facebreakers that have 998%. Temp leagues are the only place where you can get skilled gameplay. The items in standard are also inflated to absorbantly ridiculous prices from people putting their life worth of time into the game nonstop.

I have to play a temp league every single time in order to actually be involved in the economy at all to have enough to afford even one good item. Regardless of whether YOU think an AH doesn't affect trade vs sf it does. Just because you say that's not the reason you want an AH doesn't mean that people who would prefer to find their own stuff wouldn't say thank god at having and AH. Where I can just throw up 100% of the items I find and actually try to get some currency for once.

The same things that suck about trading suck in standard as well. Taking absorbant amounts of time to put anything up for sale. And having to talk to every single person who wants to buy something and listen to them haggle and all this other BS that I don't care about. Take the item at what it's listed and leave me alone. Plus having to be online constantly in order to be available for some other person to sell it to.
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deathflower wrote:

It is far from that. I think They only say they are gonna improve trading functionality and introduce asynchronous trading. Where did this in-game marketplace come from?


It is actually exactly that.

How exactly do you think people are going to post their items up for offers? How are other players going to search for the items being offered? How will people place offers for the owners of the items to consider once they are back online? The answer is that there will be an interface for all of this...A marketplace.
Keep PoE2 Difficult.
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Kingdestiny wrote:
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:


You are the definition of someone who would be better off on standard. None of the things you listed are problems for trading there.


Lol wait? How did anything I said make you think, hm that's what standards like. Standard is unbalanced as crap requires ZERO skill play because theres tons of legacy items that they refuse to nerf for whatever reason. I still have facebreakers that have 998%. Temp leagues are the only place where you can get skilled gameplay. The items in standard are also inflated to absorbantly ridiculous prices from people putting their life worth of time into the game nonstop.

I have to play a temp league every single time in order to actually be involved in the economy at all to have enough to afford even one good item. Regardless of whether YOU think an AH doesn't affect trade vs sf it does. Just because you say that's not the reason you want an AH doesn't mean that people who would prefer to find their own stuff wouldn't say thank god at having and AH. Where I can just throw up 100% of the items I find and actually try to get some currency for once.

The same things that suck about trading suck in standard as well. Taking absorbant amounts of time to put anything up for sale. And having to talk to every single person who wants to buy something and listen to them haggle and all this other BS that I don't care about. Take the item at what it's listed and leave me alone. Plus having to be online constantly in order to be available for some other person to sell it to.


Don't worry, I'll hold your hand.


"My favorite thing to do is theorycraft. I've prob put more hours into theorycrafting than anything else. I have about 60builds min maxed to the tee that aren't all that similar to other meta builds and I work on them every new league. I have trouble actually finding the gear for all of them tho. And relying on and out-of-game AH (xyz) which not everyone takes the time to post their items in makes it even harder. So most of them end up stuck in the theory stages or in the mid levels."

There is an abundance of every item under the sun in standard.

"Waiting weeks on trades is what made me quit the last league as well. I've logged off several times on making it to merciless looking at my resistances. Seeing they are terrible and that there isn't a specific new rare available and xyz and than its logout time. Character unplayable."

Getting overcapped resists in standard takes minutes of trading, not weeks. On top of that it would barely cost anything.

"It's zero fun to play a character that even built extremely defensively dies a lot due to uncapped resists. Even with a MF build with heavy resist investment yous till have to have some good tri resist gear to max your resistances. Waiting for those 25%+ movement tri resist boots every single league that can roll the exact colors you need without 800chromes is freakin dreadful. Heaven forbid if you want those same boots to have life. Click refresh, refresh, fresh, snooze."

None of this is remotely an issue on standard. You wouldn't have to click refresh even once to find those 10 chaos boots you are describing.

"I want to use tactics, good planning, and high level of skill play to kick a**. I don't want to sit and wait days for items to show up to make it through the darn game. Nor do I want to sit and farm fellshrine for 80hours. When you've played since 2011 that crap gets old real fast."

I agree farming sucks! Good thing on standard you already have all the currency from previous leagues you have played in, no need to farm again.

So in conclusion:

You are the definition of someone who would be better off on standard. None of the things you listed are problems for trading there.



Keep PoE2 Difficult.
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:
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deathflower wrote:

It is far from that. I think They only say they are gonna improve trading functionality and introduce asynchronous trading. Where did this in-game marketplace come from?


It is actually exactly that.

How exactly do you think people are going to post their items up for offers? How are other players going to search for the items being offered? How will people place offers for the owners of the items to consider once they are back online? The answer is that there will be an interface for all of this...A marketplace.


Since we haven't seen this trading system, I don't think we can answer this question. I would think it is more like a snail-mail system of sending trade than a common marketplace.
No fears at all, poe having a proper in game market is long overdue! Flippers will always flip, market players will always play, it adds nothing bad at all, just makes it more convenient, social part? what social part, most of my trades is automated copy paste of the item to buy and wordless trade in hideout.
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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:


So in conclusion:

You are the definition of someone who would be better off on standard. None of the things you listed are problems for trading there.





Well now I know that you being rude to people has nothing to do with them being rude to you. You're just plain rude. Nor did you even reply to the last paragraph describing everything that is the exact same in standard. Or about the fact that it's horribly unbalanced. Old lightning coil, old shavs, old facebreakers,old koams, now the surgeon flasks. They make zero effort to balance standard league literally making it moot.

Also, I don't hate farming. I like farming that's why I prob have over 3000hours in arpgs. What I hate is having to farm easy areas that I could farm with my eyes closed. Farming before maps is horribly monotonous. You can't choose any hard map modifiers to make the game challenging.

So no matter how rude you are it won't change the fact, that me as someone who greatly prefers self-finding over tons of trading, would massively benefit from a non-social trade system. I would put almost everything halfway decent up for sale. Where as right now I've sat ontop of really good early level map rares just because the trading takes way to much interaction and time. I also way undercut all the fast selling uniques like Maligaro's just to not have to barter endlessly. So I'd actually be able to sell things the same price other people are selling it for because it takes .3seconds of time to hit "post" while in game.
Last edited by Kingdestiny#5701 on Dec 9, 2015, 12:47:55 PM

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