Griefing

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mibuwolf wrote:

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Elynole wrote:

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mibuwolf wrote:

... not even gonna debate this one. I disagree with you on so many levels. Good day.

Reasons as to why someone would jump into a pug to do bandits then? If it's the social factor then at least the OP knows who not to group with in Wraeclast!

Not that doing the bandit quests in a group is bad or anything, I just would never put myself through the torture of doing it in a pug.

Correct. I group for almost every thing I do because I used to level solo entirely and now I realize how much more fun it is to just "socialize" with other people in a group.

Changing the way this system works would be beneficial to new players to prevent confusion. Might as well just remove the pvp option here to prevent further frustration. It seems to me that the OP got robbed and we should just prevent further mistakes like this from happening through a fix of some sort is all I would suggest.

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moikpei wrote:

Here's my self-protection anti-griefing process (protects against most loot, instance, and death griefs):

1) Am I in the actual boss fight room?
- Yes - See Question 2
- No - Proceed Solo until in the actual boss fight room
2) Is it a Bandit Boss?
- Yes - Proceed Solo until at a different boss
- No - Open PUG

For me, PUGs are for Merveil, Brutus, That Four-Legged Machine Thingy With LMP Lightning, Oversoul, Piety, and nothing else.

Game design is less about one player and is more about the benefit to all players. Typically you want to change things like this to prevent further errors/issues.

Hence the feedback from OP. You can tell him how he groups is incorrect or your way works, but that will do nothing to help players such as the OP. I imagine more cases will pop up as time progresses.

Disagree with my opinion if you wish...

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Deux wrote:

dumb will be dumb lmao

Responses like this make you appear as ignorant.

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mibuwolf wrote:

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ZadkielVenerat wrote:

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mibuwolf wrote:

I like the game/devs and all, but what's wrong with A. giving feedback, B. wanting to change something to be less of an issue?

No need to be impolite. In fact, "If you have nothing good at all to say, then keep it to yourself" sort of applies here.

Dude, considering the tough drops, nasty enemies that pop up, insane dungeons, and overall unforgiving feeling of the game...

Most of the players are sadists/masochists to a degree. Who else would go through/put their character through that kind of punishment?

Ha. Sarcasm. -.-

Also, this game is unforgiving? Wut. Lemme just Alt-F4... *phew* saved my HC character. Lemme just put a portal in the boss room.

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laycast wrote:

So why can't you do that when someone clicks Kill, when you clicked help? You have time to react.

/thread

Noobs gotta cry

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I grouped for bandits today, locked in my choice to kill first, and then got 5 man ganked and thrown off of HC.

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mibuwolf wrote:

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laycast wrote:

So why can't you do that when someone clicks Kill, when you clicked help? You have time to react.

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Noobs gotta cry

He could've. But why let these things exist when there's no reason to? PVP belongs in the pvp-mode, doesn't it?

Idk, seems the OP wasn't whining and instead brought up a possible issue that may need fixing. I think you guys are being a bit too harsh and need to lay off your aggression towards others.



Side note: I think OP clicked kill and the rest of the party clicked help.

In fact:

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I grouped for bandits today, locked in my choice to kill first, and then got 5 man ganked and thrown off of HC.

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laycast wrote:

This has been in the game since they introduced the bandit quest. They're not changing it. Chris put this in on purpose. Don't trust people, this isn't the care bear game that you may think it is.

SOLUTION TO PROBLEM OP HAS:

Be the first to click your desired choice (kill or help), if anyone chooses the opposite, PROCEED TO EXIT GAME IMMEDIATELY.

Don't fix what isn't broken