WE - NEED --> Auction House

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goetzjam wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

3 This was/would be only true for "average" and lesser gear. ("Average" is dependent on league length and would be very different in Standard versus a two-week-old temp league.) Increasing ease of trade does lower gear prices for below-average gear, perhaps even to the point of vendor-trashing them, but this is not entirely drawback (for example, consider the experience of a brand-new player catching up to those who started earlier, by buying decent gear very cheap). Although gear sells for less, more of it sells. Overall there is no problem here.

Except there is a problem here. You shouldn't automatically be drawn to buy gear super easily when leveling, imagine if poe had this AH to speak of where you click and buy, no need to use jew\fuses\ect just buy the item and resell when you are done. No one would ever "suffer" thru the leveling process at all, especially if you can buy it so easily from within the game. The flat volume logic doesn't work here, even if everything sells for less, there is a fixed number of players and because of that fixed number of players the "more sells" doesn't actually improve the experience. Its simple economics, it costed nothing to list an item in D3, only slots, even if Poe followed this mentality with either paid stash tabs (LOL) or limit per account, it promotes terrible automation and overall cheapens the whole system in a bad way.

This is only true until new players catch up to the average. In brand new leagues leveling is barely effected, in old leagues a catch-up mechanic is GOOD for new players.

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5 "Work" shouldn't be a factor. "Skill" - as in judging appropriate market values and setting prices wisely - should be a factor, but that takes about as much work as typing a number, essentially zero.
* In both of the "mostly false" cases, the main cause of "gear devaluation" in D3 was that, since selling things was easy, sellers would routinely sell crap that no one wanted for prices no one would pay and magically expect their items to move regardless. In the current Path of Exile economy, the only way you can pull stuff like that off is if you get to a new player before anyone else does... something which is, indeed, less likely in an "easier" economy like D3's, but I still feel no sympathy.

Work should be a factor, if you find a rare coin that is worth $50 on the ground, should someone just walk up to you and hand you $50 for it? No its only worth that money to the right person, simply looting the item is only 1 part of the transaction, listing it, holding onto it (lets call this warehouse effect) and selling it all should take a bit of time otherwise everyone list everything and you have what we call warbands, which is a saturated market where the homogonization of items with stats you were talking about becomes more clear. Again keeping interaction and effort involved keeps people from constantly undercutting people, making the system not implode on itself.

The ability to overbid is the appropriate counter to downward pricing pressure (which does limit automation options somewhat). Work is an irrelevant concept to undercutting.

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Can you stop calling what poe has an AH now?

poe.trade with buyout on and online only on is AH

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andreicde wrote:

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You going to support that claim with any proof? I don't and never have RMT in this game, I've spend over $1,000 on supporter packs and would A) never risk my account and B) never cheapen my experience by just taking the easy way out.

Of course the easy counter is just to point the finger and do so without a claim in order to discredit my postion.

You are going to support your claim that ah is wanted by lazy players without any proof? Just because people want convenience it does not make them lazy. When people are offline they can't sell , not to mention not everyone uses poe trade. You claim lazy people are the ones asking for ah, [Removed by Support] Take it as you like[/quote]

So you are saying I am doing something not only against the ToS but against the ideals of the game for no other reason then to try and make a cheap point that from my point of view its mainly sub part 90 level characters, with 1-2 other high level characters that are having an issue? From my point of view these are "causal" players, which GGG has indicated they don't "care" to cater to specifically.


I'd prefer in the future you wouldn't claim that players, specifically long time supporters of the game are doing stuff against the ToS. Not only is your post against the forum rules, but its simply incorrect as well.

I'll take it as you'll be reported for defamation of character and breaking the ToS on the forums, if you have any proof of your claims feel free to submit them to support, but the fact you use the argument that I must be RMTing because I don't want an AH is not only extremely ignorant, but incorrect.

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goetzjam wrote:

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andreicde wrote:

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You going to support that claim with any proof? I don't and never have RMT in this game, I've spend over $1,000 on supporter packs and would A) never risk my account and B) never cheapen my experience by just taking the easy way out.

Of course the easy counter is just to point the finger and do so without a claim in order to discredit my postion.

You are going to support your claim that ah is wanted by lazy players without any proof? Just because people want convenience it does not make them lazy. When people are offline they can't sell , not to mention not everyone uses poe trade. You claim lazy people are the ones asking for ah, [Removed by Support] Take it as you like

So you are saying I am doing something not only against the ToS but against the ideals of the game for no other reason then to try and make a cheap point that from my point of view its mainly sub part 90 level characters, with 1-2 other high level characters that are having an issue? From my point of view these are "causal" players, which GGG has indicated they don't "care" to cater to specifically.


I'd prefer in the future you wouldn't claim that players, specifically long time supporters of the game are doing stuff against the ToS. Not only is your post against the forum rules, but its simply incorrect as well.

I'll take it as you'll be reported for defamation of character and breaking the ToS on the forums, if you have any proof of your claims feel free to submit them to support, but the fact you use the argument that I must be RMTing because I don't want an AH is not only extremely ignorant, but incorrect.[/quote]

mk, because accusing everyone not liking poe trade as lazy and ignorant and ''casuals'' is not defamation lol. Love your logic