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Ok then

Which does more dps please.

20k lightning dps or 20k physical dps?

Edit - changed damage to dps as to not confuse
Last edited by pengant on May 10, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
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pengant wrote:
Ok then

Which does more dps please.

20k lightning damage or 20k physical damage?


get lightning damage, mobs have X resist, use curse, they will end up at lets say 20% lightning resistance, you now do 16k lightning damage.

get physical damage, mob has 800 armor, penetrates through it right away because thats how armor works, use vulnerability, you are now doing 28k damage.

do you understand?
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Last edited by VictorDoom on May 10, 2013, 1:31:12 PM
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pengant wrote:
Ok then

Which does more dps please.

20k lightning dps or 20k physical dps?

Edit - changed damage to dps as to not confuse

20k phys on a mob with 8k armor would do 19.3k (more with Vulnerability, ~27.8k)
20k lightning on a mob with 75% resist and 20/20 Ele Weakness would do 15k
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Last edited by Sheriff_K on May 10, 2013, 11:30:37 AM
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pengant wrote:
Ok then

Which does more dps please.

20k lightning dps or 20k physical dps?

Edit - changed damage to dps as to not confuse

20k phys on a mob with 8k armor would do 19.3k (more with Vulnerability)
20k lightning on a mob with 75% resist and 20/20 Ele Weakness would do 15k


There is no 8k armor in the game, neon confirmed yesterday, the maximum amount of armor in the game a mob can have is around 930. Even if 8k armor were in the game youd still do better damage as you showed.


EDIT: Since people keep asking me about it, and they think im giving out false info for some stupid reason, here's the video of me chatting with the guys on dominions stream, where neon says how much the armor is: http://www.twitch.tv/fireknight747/b/401083276 at 7:05:50 , 983 armor.
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Last edited by VictorDoom on Jun 30, 2013, 9:06:57 AM

InB4 40/80/120% shock stacks.


/trollollol
Casually casual.

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pengant wrote:
Ok then

Which does more dps please.

20k lightning dps or 20k physical dps?

Edit - changed damage to dps as to not confuse

20k phys on a mob with 8k armor would do 19.3k (more with Vulnerability, ~27.8k)
20k lightning on a mob with 75% resist and 20/20 Ele Weakness would do 15k


This pretty much says it all.

Physical Damage > Elemental Damage definitely.

Once we get rings that can roll 1-50 Physical Dmg as a mod for example, that will heavily outdps a ring with 1-50 Lightning Dmg.
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Last edited by Wishinan on May 10, 2013, 11:34:21 AM
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TheAnuhart wrote:

InB4 40/80/120% shock stacks.


/trollollol


In before 3/2/1 seconds instadeath due to ele reflect.

/zomg
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Suprised you didn't pick up on the fact that I chose to say lightning damage for a reason lol. (oh wait someone did :P)

You're not accounting for shock stacks at all.

And besides, I don't think it's possible to get up to anything near 20k pure physical damage on an AOE skill is it?

What is possible however is to get up to 20k elemental damage on AOE with enough Lightning damage in there (especially with the new op gloves :P) to generate good shock stacks with your 20k elemental damage. Giving you way more dps than any pure physical user, who may manage 10k pure physical dps a long with 10k elemental to go with it (via %physical converted to ele damage auras etc)


Which is more dps?
Last edited by pengant on May 10, 2013, 11:37:45 AM
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Phys dmg is better than ele dmg.

Ele reflect is worse than phys.



Caveat: I'm not disputing or agreeing, I just feel like I've entered some alternate mirror universe.

It is refreshing.
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aristolholy wrote:

even player who stack 8-12% life node they must stack around 40-60 8-12% life node to get 400-500% life

and from 2 ring alone u can get around 100% all resist, can have higher resist than that



I said the 80-90 HP on gloves would equate to 400-600 HP on someone who stacked life % nodes. I never said 400-500%.

Assuming 2 rings are going to give you 100% all res, that means each ring gives 50 All Res. But that is also going to mean that this ring will be giving way lesser DPS compared to the 20% All res ring that I used in my example. So it balances out really.

Also as I mentioned a few posts earlier, overcapping res is going to be so important, especially in maps with ele weakness or -max res cap, or worse still maps with both. And a Thunderfist doesn't seem to be able to aid much in that aspect.


lol u still not understand what i mean? to get 400-600 life from 80 life u need 400-500% life% node, maybe more

and u can still get both dps and resist from ring, theres also dps mod in suffix and resist is prefix mod, that means with 2 ring u can still got 100% all resist and dps

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