Game is Dead. RIP POE 2014.
" yes, you have 'options' but actually loot tension is never ON now. and that's the difference. If you join a public party NOBODY will change the loot to SA or FFA for you If you join a public SA party, EVERYONE will change loot to PERM for you (if it was not already and just waiting for the next area to load) I actually spent alot of time hosting SA pub groups - everyone asks for perm loot, and leaves when I refuse - many times I had the whole group reform in the same instance I was in to make a new party. - its not worth my time to fight with people either. I only mention this because you asked. Essentially you have to win an argument in order to play the game the way it was designed,- the way the makers of the game themselves said it plays best. there is no wining argument "perm is easier" - if you are playing HC there is no way you will convince people to add more risk just because you say its more fun. dying is 100x worse then having slightly less suspense while playing even I will concede! I have lost high level HC chars because of exploding monsters while trying to loot quickly - it is more dangerous in bloodlines as well. If you join friends and turn on SA - you are only doing so for convenience, there is no tension about who is going to grab what while your busy fighting. FFA pubic groups are only 'boss kill for orbs' games - so there is no contention for loot |
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"Watch some Malcolm Gladwell on TED. If we were purely democratic about our coffee, a majority of us would be drinking coffee we don't like; if about our pasta sauce, we wouldn't even know how to vote for what we want. When it comes to anything technical - even as subtly technical as creating flavours - the people are not best served by simply following their instructions. Game designers know more about making games than gamers do. I consider loot tension to be a relatively unexplored design space. I do not believe GGG had it right during the "ninja loot" era, but there was a concept. I feel, and have very consistently felt, they abandoned the concept too early and went lazy-mode instead. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Feb 12, 2015, 6:53:02 PM
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" It tells me that very few people play melee anymore. Nobody wants a person that does almost no work out there picking all the cherries :) Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► |
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" Tells me that PA is easier, even though its boring. so it was one of many 'bad changes' IMO. this is just one item on a list of why PoE is not a real HardCore game anymore - and you pretty much made that point at least - yes we all play "easy mode". I don't think that you should be forced to play SA or FFA with strangers if you dont want too. I DO think that they should have done something to preserve LOOT TENSION - so that people would have a reason to play a risker game with more suspense. |
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Add a 5% iiq boost to SA and a 10% iiq boost to FFA while in parties, enjoy the world burn.
Small enough bonus to not effect economy, big enough for people to fight between themselves. |
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" That's what I proposed back in the FFA QQ era, but GGG went the lazy way. Still salty about FFA when I think about it :x GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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how many of these threads have been made and the very same person is back for the next big expansion?
i think i made like 2 of these myself...... im still here.. |
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Playing every day, I see loads of people forming both Short Allocation and Permanent Allocation parties. I play in both. If you don't like one or the other, you look for the one you DO like, and if you aren't wise enough to look at the clear labels, well, sucks to be you, I guess.
Your argument would have merit if the preference of the majority determined what everybody was forced to play, but this ain't a collectivist dystopia, friend. You're welcome to flip that allocation switch however you like. |
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" OMG all I had to do was read the labels. Are you kidding me?!? All this time wasted! No. Seriously, I am online 8+ hours a day every day and they simply do not exist from what I see - and when I host them, I actually put 'SA' in the game title, and I STILL GET ASKED TO CHANGE IT over and over again. (and I do, because I truly hate having to argue or fight with people - and PA takes much less effort, so I don’t bother) For the first month of bloodines I joined EVERY SINGLE ONE of the SA games within my level range at the time and EVERY TIME I asked the game host if he set SA loot on purpose. (looking for people to invite to our guild) EVERY SINGLE TIME I got a reply similar to "No, someone else hosted this game and left, I dident know I was the host - I'll change it now" some game hosts still don’t even know they can change the setting, but in almost every case, once the topic was brought up the setting changes to PA, always. You claim to have better experiences with this eh? Before I claim you are a liar, tell me how many public map groups have you been in over the last few years that used SA or FFA? And in what leagues? ... Anyhow, this is only part of the problem anyway - "loot tension" is dependent on a need to be in groups to begin with, and as it stands now competent characters have no advantages to do so, soloing is far more efficient. (more loot, more xp, more control over encounters, others) and if your only motive to join a group is the "social aspects" then it’s far less likely you will opt to compete over loot voluntarily. |
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I haven't even played spec throw yet. Not dead for me.
But honestly I can see less clan mates online...used to be like 10-15 now 2-3. I think this game needs an AH that was endgame for me in D3. Just played AH couple hours a day after about 6 months....did that for two years made 100s of billions. You really have infinite money to make and deals to find with AH so game never ends until they killed it.:( Thats why I came here. They killed the fun. This game sadly you cant make trades unless both players online which makes it less fun to play tradeing game Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Feb 13, 2015, 1:24:08 PM
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