The main source of frustation, especially for new players

As a caster you're probably stacking some ES? (i hope) - if you put on a hybrid ES/armour piece you'd get your colours without any drama at all and extra effective life to boot. Sure, that's not giving you extra evasion so you may get hit more often - but you'll be mitigating the damage when you do get hit more, and as per my previous post, think of it as a stepping stone but you may well end up taking it late into the game.

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If he comes back message me and we'll hook it up.
I was yes thoguh again I decided to drop the character. I wasn't really satisfied with it but I did had a 5L on it. Luck allowed me to find a 5socket and i managed to link it albeit at a cost of 30 fusings. Only he needed the 5L but if he comes back (he can be pretty stubborn)then i'll ask you, otherwise I wouldn't take take the armor for no reason.

My only current barrier is the block/evasion/dodge build I want to try but that cannot really work onanything less than a full evasion piece because of the simple fact that even then extra amount of evasion that I gain is somewhat limited so I don't expect to get 9000+ evasion. If I get anything less than a full evasion armor (bearing in mind that my shield is not evasion based already I'm probably not going to get enough evasion to the point where it is actually effective... I guess at some point I'll post a request somewhere for that specific type of armor with those linked colours in case anyone gets a drop remember to drop by and sell it to me for hopefully a reasonable price.
"The heavens burned
The stars cried out
And under the ashes of infinity
Hope, scarred and bleeding breathed it's last."
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My only current barrier is the block/evasion/dodge build I want to try but that cannot really work onanything less than a full evasion piece because of the simple fact that even then extra amount of evasion that I gain is somewhat limited so I don't expect to get 9000+ evasion. If I get anything less than a full evasion armor (bearing in mind that my shield is not evasion based already I'm probably not going to get enough evasion to the point where it is actually effective... I guess at some point I'll post a request somewhere for that specific type of armor with those linked colours in case anyone gets a drop remember to drop by and sell it to me for hopefully a reasonable price.


The problem is that as offcolors are rare, a fully offcolored 5link will be more expensive than a normal one. I really would just drop the evasion idea from that character until you find the right gear pieces. If youre running max block, spell block, dodge, spell dogde, have max resistances and a decent life pool you will allready be able to progress pretty far and dont need extra much evasion on top. If it is more important for you atm to get a five link do so. You can come back later with a fitting evasion chest.

dont forget to run grace aura, will be more flat evasion than most armour pieces offer you. Allthough if you dont manage over 50% evasion I would totally drop the idea till much later in the level/gearing progression and get some damage [read clear speed(read fun ;))] for now.

I hope you know the chromatic recipe!? (Any piece of gear with three differently colored links vendored)
Check all your vendors on every level up, pick up all those pieces and sell them. That way you can get pretty good heaps of chromes. Buy some decent Evasion armour with five links then and chrome it with voiricis crafting bench, the bench can take out the rng for at least one socket and you can end up with off colors pretty quickly:
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I always thought it was by design.

This is a very 'harsh' game, that's what makes it 'hardcore'.



I must say, getting a 'tal TShirt' changed my life. ;-P
I usually rip up toons to 60/70 in 2 days play, actually playing the 'spec' I want to play, not a leveling spec, then swapping. That really helps you feel attached to your toon/build. Let's you 'feel' it getting stronger as you level!

I've got to admit, one of the biggest things that put me off when I got my 2nd too up. Was, I think I blew 2,300'ish fuse, and failed... Ended up spending over a week farming pre'map content to get enough cash together to get a 5L unique.
It felt terribad, the gear sitting there, stopping my build from working, and not being usable for so long.

Other thing, it dose put me off going new leagues. I've got a established bank full of handy goodies.
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My only current barrier is the block/evasion/dodge build I want to try but that cannot really work onanything less than a full evasion piece because of the simple fact that even then extra amount of evasion that I gain is somewhat limited so I don't expect to get 9000+ evasion. If I get anything less than a full evasion armor (bearing in mind that my shield is not evasion based already I'm probably not going to get enough evasion to the point where it is actually effective... I guess at some point I'll post a request somewhere for that specific type of armor with those linked colours in case anyone gets a drop remember to drop by and sell it to me for hopefully a reasonable price.


The problem is that as offcolors are rare, a fully offcolored 5link will be more expensive than a normal one. I really would just drop the evasion idea from that character until you find the right gear pieces. If youre running max block, spell block, dodge, spell dogde, have max resistances and a decent life pool you will allready be able to progress pretty far and dont need extra much evasion on top. If it is more important for you atm to get a five link do so. You can come back later with a fitting evasion chest.

dont forget to run grace aura, will be more flat evasion than most armour pieces offer you. Allthough if you dont manage over 50% evasion I would totally drop the idea till much later in the level/gearing progression and get some damage [read clear speed(read fun ;))] for now.

I hope you know the chromatic recipe!? (Any piece of gear with three differently colored links vendored)
Check all your vendors on every level up, pick up all those pieces and sell them. That way you can get pretty good heaps of chromes. Buy some decent Evasion armour with five links then and chrome it with voiricis crafting bench, the bench can take out the rng for at least one socket and you can end up with off colors pretty quickly:


I do know the chrome recipe yes. Even so taking a look at the average of Vorici calculator for getting the right colours on an evasion piece it still gives me an average of over 40K orbs spent to get it.

I don't particularly like the queen of the forest because it reduces your movement speed and has nothing special that helps the build. It's not overly hard to just get a piece of rare armour with over 2K evasion at high level... Well, not hard though expensive anyway. The resistences are nice but still not enough of a reason, again you can get rare over 2000 evasion with tri elemental res. No point in losing speed. As for the boots no, I'll take the atziri's boots. Increased spell dodge + good movement speed.

Anyways I know it's a dream build but I'm still hoping I can make it one day. Evasion is the only logical step to take. Armor is a lost cause due to dodge and energy shield feels wasted given that I don't really get nodes to increase it enough to matter but I suppose it's an alternative to exploreshould I be unable to really get evasion.
"The heavens burned
The stars cried out
And under the ashes of infinity
Hope, scarred and bleeding breathed it's last."
So, what your point on socket colouring boils down to is:
- You want the max eva the game to offer
- You also want to use a main attack skill which require sockets which don't match eva gear whatsoever
- You want 5 such support gems

And you don't like the fact that this is very hard to achieve. Mate, what are your expectations? And what would they become if you have such gear? 8 sockets?

Really, you should expect to jump through many, many hoops for the ultimate BiS item you're looking for. Other people figure out what to do with great gear that they have or can get. Why don't you do that, too?

Sorry to sound so harsh, but if GGG caved in and gave everybody the BiS stuff, gear progression would stop too soon and then where's the fun in playing a looting game? I agree that the good but not BiS gear could become more accessible, but the BiS stuff should remain super rare.
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I identify with the opening post because that was exactly how I felt when I started out one and a half years ago as a ranger who struggled to 71. It was brutal from Act 3 Cruel onwards and I could only dream of a 5L then. I took a break before getting back to it and with a new character and here I am now as a fairly seasoned player. My perspective of the game has (obviously) changed as I grinded and had the rub of good RNG to get me suited up with a 6L and other end-game gear.

I won't question your frustration because the game IS frustrating on quite a few levels, some of it are deal-breakers to many people, and because it's your prerogative. The game can be a very different experience for different people.

However, the game is frustrating on this level, getting the desired sockets, links and colors, by design, and I don't think it's about to change anytime soon, especially with the addition of Vorici. While your suggested tweaks will appeal immediately to new players (and current players similarly frustrated), it'll change the complexion of the game. A game where 6L is that easily accessible and where a 4/5L is an afterthought wouldn't be the POE we know, love and loathe (sometimes all at once!).

It'll be a different game. Now, the real question is, will it be a different game for the better? Maybe having a 6L as a given will free up more creative skill interplay and interaction. I don't think it will -- we'll still end up with the same set of gem combinations. Because it's the not the availability of 5/6 links which make for more creative usage of gems; it's the gems themselves which foster interesting combos. We simply need a wider variety of efficient gem permutations.

At the heart of this game is resource management, and the hard choices that are to be made in the face of limited resources. What do you put off crafting to get this other item crafted? Wraeclast is, after all, a harsh and unforgiving environment. As it says on the tin.
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I don't particularly like the queen of the forest because it reduces your movement speed and has nothing special that helps the build. It's not overly hard to just get a piece of rare armour with over 2K evasion at high level... Well, not hard though expensive anyway. The resistences are nice but still not enough of a reason, again you can get rare over 2000 evasion with tri elemental res. No point in losing speed. As for the boots no, I'll take the atziri's boots. Increased spell dodge + good movement speed.

Anyways I know it's a dream build but I'm still hoping I can make it one day. Evasion is the only logical step to take. Armor is a lost cause due to dodge and energy shield feels wasted given that I don't really get nodes to increase it enough to matter but I suppose it's an alternative to exploreshould I be unable to really get evasion.


This post captures my point about the resource management of the game. What you desire in your armor -- 5/6L 2000 eva with tri res and assuming life -- is the sort of armor not many possess even in end-game at levels 80+. But you would like one for a character that hasn't hit 60?

The Queen of the Forest is a great alternative at level 59 to such high-end armors if 2000+ eva, tri res and life are the stats you desire more than others. The movement speed is something you'd then work around or sacrifice.

* If I could make a suggestion about your posting style: Ditch the pluck-out-of-nowhere numbers ("A 5L early on, as early as you hit cruel is essencial/needed for 95% of the builds."). They don't lend weight to your argument; they tend to do the opposite actually.


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