"We understand what is required to make an addictive action RPG ..."

I always thinked that GGG focuses on make an addictive game, the system is clearly developed for keep people hooked. Exactly for this question the game will have a really hard itemization forever.

They know how to make an annoying ass game......combining several irritating features.......

Random OHK, Desyncs that lead to random deaths, Merciless mode...........oh, and random deaths....plus the UI, that chat window....

I agree for most part obviously but end game is weak as hell. A place where you spend 90% of your time with a) face rolling lvl 60 maps for sac sets or b) face rolling lower maps to build 77-78 pool which are pretty easy too.

Game need an end game....maps up to 100...and 100 is impossible...more fun bosses like atziri we have to learn all over. But like 20 of them each inside one of those new maps. Basically like Greater rfits buts way better because we can roll our rifts.

A lot of player missing we have had some serious power creep..heralds...masters..new uniques..gem buffs.. etc and monster have not kept up.

They kind of missed one of the most important things about an addicting game : the reward factor. PoE lacks that factor. You will go through hundreds of trash rares before one is worthy. Uniques don't drop often and those 'guaranteed' unique drops are always rigged to be trash. Hardest bosses in the game drop nothing. Reward factor : weak. D2 reward factor : amazing

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woodyfly wrote:

They kind of missed one of the most important things about an addicting game : the reward factor. PoE lacks that factor. You will go through hundreds of trash rares before one is worthy. Uniques don't drop often and those 'guaranteed' unique drops are always rigged to be trash. Hardest bosses in the game drop nothing. Reward factor : weak. D2 reward factor : amazing

I'm not sure about D2 i was like 5 when it came out but if drops are too good then people will be bored even faster than they are now. Like ladder isnt even over over and most my clan quit and freinds not online anymore because they are GG so what the point. I dont understand how people were not bored in one week with D2 if drops are as good as you say..I know I was of RoS where drops rain.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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woodyfly wrote:

They kind of missed one of the most important things about an addicting game : the reward factor. PoE lacks that factor. You will go through hundreds of trash rares before one is worthy. Uniques don't drop often and those 'guaranteed' unique drops are always rigged to be trash. Hardest bosses in the game drop nothing. Reward factor : weak. D2 reward factor : amazing

I'm not sure about D2 i was like 5 when it came out but if drops are too good then people will be bored even faster than they are now. Like ladder isnt even over over and most my clan quit and freinds not online anymore because they are GG so what the point. I dont understand how people were not bored in one week with D2 if drops are as good as you say..I know I was of RoS where drops rain.

It took people 10 years to get bored with it, even with all duped stuff on top of rewarding play.

'Reward = ppl will quit' is only a truth in games that are shit in its core, that have to rely on rarity in reward to keep ppl engaged. PoE is not shit in its core, but someone needs to convince GGG about that.

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symban wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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woodyfly wrote:

They kind of missed one of the most important things about an addicting game : the reward factor. PoE lacks that factor. You will go through hundreds of trash rares before one is worthy. Uniques don't drop often and those 'guaranteed' unique drops are always rigged to be trash. Hardest bosses in the game drop nothing. Reward factor : weak. D2 reward factor : amazing

I'm not sure about D2 i was like 5 when it came out but if drops are too good then people will be bored even faster than they are now. Like ladder isnt even over over and most my clan quit and freinds not online anymore because they are GG so what the point. I dont understand how people were not bored in one week with D2 if drops are as good as you say..I know I was of RoS where drops rain.

It took people 10 years to get bored with it, even with all duped stuff on top of rewarding play.

'Reward = ppl will quit' is only a truth in games that are shit in its core, that have to rely on rarity in reward to keep ppl engaged. PoE is not shit in its core, but someone needs to convince GGG about that.

D2 is extremely unrewarded complete farm bot + farm until your eyes bleed game were you get nothing good after dozens and dozens of runs were it's even harder to get something like chains of honor or engima that were "good items."

Please don't mistake game being good to = rewarding ~.~

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RagnarokChu wrote:

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symban wrote:

It took people 10 years to get bored with it, even with all duped stuff on top of rewarding play.

'Reward = ppl will quit' is only a truth in games that are shit in its core, that have to rely on rarity in reward to keep ppl engaged. PoE is not shit in its core, but someone needs to convince GGG about that.

D2 is extremely unrewarded complete farm bot + farm until your eyes bleed game were you get nothing good after dozens and dozens of runs were it's even harder to get something like chains of honor or engima that were "good items."

Please don't mistake game being good to = rewarding ~.~

Dont put words in my mouth, I never said game being good = rewarding. What I said in bold is not same as your misinterpretation.

D2 WAS both rewarding to play as a solo/self found player, AND it was also not boring for people who preferred to/dupe the shit out of it.

People did not get bored and quit after being rewarded because the game was good. If you can not understand the difference between that and "game being good to = rewarding", then avoid quoting people before understanding what they are saying.

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symban wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

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symban wrote:

It took people 10 years to get bored with it, even with all duped stuff on top of rewarding play.

'Reward = ppl will quit' is only a truth in games that are shit in its core, that have to rely on rarity in reward to keep ppl engaged. PoE is not shit in its core, but someone needs to convince GGG about that.

D2 is extremely unrewarded complete farm bot + farm until your eyes bleed game were you get nothing good after dozens and dozens of runs were it's even harder to get something like chains of honor or engima that were "good items."

Please don't mistake game being good to = rewarding ~.~

Dont put words in my mouth, I never said game being good = rewarding. What I said in bold is not same as your misinterpretation.

D2 WAS both rewarding to play as a solo/self found player, AND it was also not boring for people who preferred to/dupe the shit out of it.

People did not get bored and quit after being rewarded because the game was good. If you can not understand the difference between that and "game being good to = rewarding", then avoid quoting people before understanding what they are saying.

D2 was not "rewarding" to play as a solo/self found player at all.

That was even more true if you played the ladder WITH trading it was "not rewarding." It is less rewarding then PoE ever was.

If your rose tinted glasses think so then sure, but unlike you I still ladder in D2 and play D2 from time to time.

Also same goes to you, don't quote people while you clearly ignore the paragraph above telling you that your rose-tinted glasses are on and the game was not "rewarding" in terms of loot.

Cant be bothered with you. You are just cherry picking sentences and then attempt to bully based on a phrase in a bigger context.

If you claim D2 held people's attention for over 10 years by being unrewarding (which is the whole point this quote chain started), I call it BS. D2 ladders were full of duped/botted stuff to the point you could gear up to BiS with little to no effort, yet people did not stop playing after that. /period

If you claim otherwise, you are welcome to make silly out of yourself.
And No, dont cherry pick another sentence to prove me wrong.