What solo mapping from 95-96 looks like

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tackle70 wrote:

Also, putting words in my mouth and namecalling is super sexy. You stay classy.

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TrizzeX wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

Also, putting words in my mouth and namecalling is super sexy. You stay classy.

Well you called him a liar. So yeaaaa....

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Peterlerock wrote:

Imho, the levelling process from 90 to 100 is designed like this for one reason:
To give people who cannot get enough of their character/this game something to work on for ages.

The difficulty in maintaining a lvl 78 map pool.
The crazy amount of xp needed.
The 10% xp loss for deaths.
Even the missing achievement (level 90 is the last one).

They all indicate that you are not meant to reach lvl 100.
For everybody who is mentally sane, the game stops at level 90. ;)

Does this need change?

My answer would be "no".
I don't see a reason why lvl 100 should be an achievable goal for everybody.
GGG could even make it take 10times as much XP, I couldn't care less. ;)

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tackle70 wrote:

Ever wonder what it takes to do real endgame leveling if you play solo and have a life? Read on to find out!

NOTE: Anytime I mention "onslaught" in this thread, I mean the 8 chaos Zana map mod (formerly 6 chaos when I was running these).

Me in PoE:
*My current build and gear is in the 3rd post on this page. One of the best builds that uses no mirror-level gear IMO.
*I only play solo (but I have a shop where I sell good stuff I find)
*I have a life - wife/kids/job/etc but have spent most of my free time for the past two years in PoE
*Having a life means I just play Standard; my playtime is erratic and so temporary leagues don't appeal to me

My mapping approach:
*I do not buy maps, ever
*75 maps are run as transmute & go
*76 maps are transmute/alt for pack mod [rare/magic/pack size] & go
*77/78 maps are chisel/transmute/alt for pack mod/regal/Onslaught & go
*I avoided the following to be super safe and guarantee no deaths: blood magic, -max resist, no regen, elemental reflect, Haku missions, Catarina missions
*All maps were cleared to <20 remaining
*All bosses were killed
*I try and save shop income for item upgrades (I was saving for level 21 gems), and rely only on my map income (alt/jew/fuse, chroms, regal recipe) to roll my maps. At times I had to use shop income to buy chisels or chaos to roll maps but this was uncommon (I only did it when I was sick of 75/76 maps).

The results:
Real time: 20 days (Oct. 8 - 27)
Game time: ~21-23 hours
Total Maps: 209
Map breakdown by level (sub-75 maps were Zana missions and some Gorges)...
70: 3
71: 2
72: 3
73: 6
74: 16
75: 50
76: 50
77: 53
78: 29

Notable loot/finds: 1x Exalted Orb, 1x Divine Orb, Devoto's Devotion, 145% Abyssus, 1x lvl 77 Cartographer's Strongbox

Estimated total expense not counting the value of the maps themselves (using 1c = 2.5 chisels and 1 regal = 1.5 chaos, onslaught = 6c): 878 chaos

My conclusions:
Mapping at this level solo is just an incredible chore, and clearly you're not really supposed to do it. It's impossible to build enough wealth (at least, with zero MF) to stay in 77/78 maps and you have to run a TON of 75/76 maps to build the currency to roll your 77/78 maps well enough to sustain the pool. The playtime needed isn't so bad, but the gigantic wealth drain is just depressing. It requires 100% of your income to keep mapping, which means when you are done - unless you win the lotto with a drop - you are flat broke. I've got 300 ex ish of gear/gems on my build and less than 3 exalts worth of currency in my stash right now. Ugh.

It definitely burned me out for a while. Gonna take a break from endgame until Act 4, I think.

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tackle70 wrote:

Seeing how I made about 30-40 exalts selling maps since forsaken masters (from running ~500 74+ maps), I'd say you're either just playing a huge amount more than me (nolifing), playing a very different game, or lying.

230 exalts in 2.5 months is flipper/nolifer income.

Also, putting words in my mouth and namecalling is super sexy. You stay classy.

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Krayken wrote:

But unlike you, i manage to make profit (according to your OP, you are stuck at 3 exalts). Example : i managed to earn 230 exalts since masters patch release about 2.5 months ago (which i used to buy a legacy shav). Your lack of profit is the reason you made that thread right? I just explained you how i do it.
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With 4 chisels + alch it's nearly impossible to get under 60% IQ. Thats one Alch + 4 chisels so roughly 2.2 chaos worth to craft the map. Most of the times its over 80% IQ right there, almost every times with either map pack, more rares or more magic mod.

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jojo777 wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

But unlike you, i manage to make profit (according to your OP, you are stuck at 3 exalts). Example : i managed to earn 230 exalts since masters patch release about 2.5 months ago (which i used to buy a legacy shav). Your lack of profit is the reason you made that thread right? I just explained you how i do it.
(...)
With 4 chisels + alch it's nearly impossible to get under 60% IQ. Thats one Alch + 4 chisels so roughly 2.2 chaos worth to craft the map. Most of the times its over 80% IQ right there, almost every times with either map pack, more rares or more magic mod.

you got only items <1ex in your shop, and your profile is set to private, which means you´re never shown as online on xyz and probably dont sell much at all. so..did you find a couple mirrors or what?

second part is also wrong. iirc 6/10 times alchs give you 4 stats. if 1 of those is pack/magic/rares, that leaves 3 for iiq. its very hard to get >60% from 3 affixes.
Also "more rare monsters" affix is not nearly as good as pack/magic. And even if you roll pack/magic, 1/3 of the time its gonna be in the 20%-30% range, which kinda sucks too.

And im not just talking theoretically here, i used to roll maps back when 77 were top tier and worth several ex each. Chaos spamming was the way to go in those days, and having to spend 25+ chaos until you got a decent roll happened fairly often.

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jojo777 wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

But unlike you, i manage to make profit (according to your OP, you are stuck at 3 exalts). Example : i managed to earn 230 exalts since masters patch release about 2.5 months ago (which i used to buy a legacy shav). Your lack of profit is the reason you made that thread right? I just explained you how i do it.
(...)
With 4 chisels + alch it's nearly impossible to get under 60% IQ. Thats one Alch + 4 chisels so roughly 2.2 chaos worth to craft the map. Most of the times its over 80% IQ right there, almost every times with either map pack, more rares or more magic mod.

you got only items <1ex in your shop, and your profile is set to private, which means you´re never shown as online on xyz and probably dont sell much at all. so..did you find a couple mirrors or what?

second part is also wrong. iirc 6/10 times alchs give you 4 stats. if 1 of those is pack/magic/rares, that leaves 3 for iiq. its very hard to get >60% from 3 affixes.
Also "more rare monsters" affix is not nearly as good as pack/magic. And even if you roll pack/magic, 1/3 of the time its gonna be in the 20%-30% range, which kinda sucks too.

And im not just talking theoretically here, i used to roll maps back when 77 were top tier and worth several ex each. Chaos spamming was the way to go in those days, and having to spend 25+ chaos until you got a decent roll happened fairly often.

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tackle70 wrote:

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jojo777 wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

But unlike you, i manage to make profit (according to your OP, you are stuck at 3 exalts). Example : i managed to earn 230 exalts since masters patch release about 2.5 months ago (which i used to buy a legacy shav). Your lack of profit is the reason you made that thread right? I just explained you how i do it.
(...)
With 4 chisels + alch it's nearly impossible to get under 60% IQ. Thats one Alch + 4 chisels so roughly 2.2 chaos worth to craft the map. Most of the times its over 80% IQ right there, almost every times with either map pack, more rares or more magic mod.

you got only items <1ex in your shop, and your profile is set to private, which means you´re never shown as online on xyz and probably dont sell much at all. so..did you find a couple mirrors or what?

second part is also wrong. iirc 6/10 times alchs give you 4 stats. if 1 of those is pack/magic/rares, that leaves 3 for iiq. its very hard to get >60% from 3 affixes.
Also "more rare monsters" affix is not nearly as good as pack/magic. And even if you roll pack/magic, 1/3 of the time its gonna be in the 20%-30% range, which kinda sucks too.

And im not just talking theoretically here, i used to roll maps back when 77 were top tier and worth several ex each. Chaos spamming was the way to go in those days, and having to spend 25+ chaos until you got a decent roll happened fairly often.

He's too pro for any of that to matter. Plays a couple hours just alching a few maps and makes 3 exalts per day.

lol