The next thing that needs to be redesigned for the sake of balance

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Just step aside and think a bit....

Is it fair, that Immortal Call (immunity to physical) can be sustained indefinitely as long as there are 9 enemies around?

Is it fair, that maximum resists can be stacked up to 100%?

Is it fair, that the more maximum resists you stack, the more benefit you get? 5% maximum resist at 75% res will give you just 20% reduction, while the same 5% max res at 90% will give 50% reduction...

If you think those are fair, balanced, consistent and interesting mechanics, we have nothing to talk about. Feel free to enjoy balance flaws, cause i will not.

CI is probably the most fair immunity imaginable. Only very few enemies rely heavily on chaos damage, and even those can inflict another damage type. Chaos damage is usually just an supplementary damage type, and immunity to it alone wont make you much tougher.

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H4NS wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Just step aside and think a bit....

Is it fair, that Immortal Call (immunity to physical) can be sustained indefinitely as long as there are 9 enemies around?

Is it fair, that maximum resists can be stacked up to 100%?

Is it fair, that the more maximum resists you stack, the more benefit you get? 5% maximum resist at 75% res will give you just 20% reduction, while the same 5% max res at 90% will give 50% reduction...

If you think those are fair, balanced, consistent and interesting mechanics, we have nothing to talk about. Feel free to enjoy balance flaws, cause i will not.

CI is probably the most fair immunity imaginable. Only very few enemies rely heavily on chaos damage, and even those can inflict another damage type. Chaos damage is usually just an supplementary damage type, and immunity to it alone wont make you much tougher.

I explained why this build isn't viable in new leagues. GGG doesn't give a shit about standard or hardcore balance.

People that abuse Immortal Call *raises hand*, eventually die because they fuck up and took risks or weren't concentrated enough. Just look at Havoc's HC death. Using IC for avoiding armour nodes is a very risky tactic

I have never seen (or heard of) anybody use this build in Invasion, enough proof that it isn't viable

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H4NS wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Just step aside and think a bit....

Is it fair, that Immortal Call (immunity to physical) can be sustained indefinitely as long as there are 9 enemies around?

Is it fair, that maximum resists can be stacked up to 100%?

Is it fair, that the more maximum resists you stack, the more benefit you get? 5% maximum resist at 75% res will give you just 20% reduction, while the same 5% max res at 90% will give 50% reduction...

If you think those are fair, balanced, consistent and interesting mechanics, we have nothing to talk about. Feel free to enjoy balance flaws, cause i will not.

CI is probably the most fair immunity imaginable. Only very few enemies rely heavily on chaos damage, and even those can inflict another damage type. Chaos damage is usually just an supplementary damage type, and immunity to it alone wont make you much tougher.

I explained why this build isn't viable in new leagues. GGG doesn't give a shit about standard or hardcore balance.

People that abuse Immortal Call *raises hand*, eventually die because they fuck up and took risks or weren't concentrated enough. Just look at Havoc's HC death. Using IC for avoiding armour nodes is a very risky tactic

I have never seen (or heard of) anybody use this build in Invasion, enough proof that it isn't viable

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TheEnforcer wrote:

there are atziri farmers that use it in hardcore that were among the first to kill her in that league. i think it could be done in invasion if shackles of the wretched lv1 temp chains is used to make up for lack of easy charge generation.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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So, you're thinking of drastically reducing DPS and survavility (less mov speed), for the sake of a longer immortal call?

The only point of using SotW is for support builds that use vaal auras

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

And who cares about a bit less move speed when he is immortal? Quicksilver flasks are still there, btw...

I still dont understand. Even if it isnt 100% invulnerability, but 99.9% one, why players think it's fair? It isnt even something like Aegis Aurora or armour (which cant save from big hits), it isnt life leech (which still cant save from big hits and have troubles with reflect)....

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Boem wrote:

You are forgetting flask's are buff's as well.

It would complement a full immunity build very well.

Peace,

-Boem-

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H4NS wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

And who cares about a bit less move speed when he is immortal? Quicksilver flasks are still there, btw...

I still dont understand. Even if it isnt 100% invulnerability, but 99.9% one, why players think it's fair? It isnt even something like Aegis Aurora or armour (which cant save from big hits), it isnt life leech (which still cant save from big hits and have troubles with reflect)....

Game mechanics are completely fair, for it is impossible to achieve such "immunity"

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Boem wrote:

You are forgetting flask's are buff's as well.

It would complement a full immunity build very well.

Peace,

-Boem-

No one has posted an "immortal build" that works in the new leagues, so, there's no such thing as full immunity.

The closest build I've seen that's close to invincibility, is moir's. His resists are 95/95/95/61 after flasks, and 12k armour.

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TheEnforcer wrote:

you can still easily upkeep 100% ele resists in all leagues regardless of league specific items (in fact i think the max is 105% all res w/ with new max res corruptions), the issue is endurance charge generation vs bosses that make it hard (but not impossible) to keep permanent IC.