[FlickFrap's] "Galaxy" Flicker Build (Not Cheap) [OUT OF DATE]

Thanks Lopan and Spectrelight !

I got this
and it solves my mana problem with EB

Instead of running EV I go for IR

Here
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAKCqZVzBUHhr_k7VIJpVVS217pn_tQbGzh9th4jY953RRR42_BbUM8qXLjX2qf6q4Wkjv8CP27g4a2_ljveY-z4d2Z6D8xVb6OJa3FymlTipbr90NkAp949tuuT5W9ZfQtMU94rfT18sFfVbqEZYOSOOEuXzp_vyrnaMnqX_GWm1JUadcJDyOiizh2HasZn5Z29SaE3BWkBuIQsHF2wuCHloatkEWv3BS8-rAUYw2Go_22vsJGYqbtVM1bWxwu0p9G61I7v66fXXTfniu


Gears


Wand for frenzy. Shield for keeping aura after I switch.

I take some block nodes with BOR they give me around 50% block. 60% shield defense can push my mana to 1300+. Because my tree only have 168% life nodes now and it becomes 153% due to Ming's. I have only 3000+ life with 4500+ AR at Lv85 lol. The low life pool and stun really hurt me in the highter level maps.I think I am totally going a wrong way. Any ideas?



---Put LS to dagger,CwS on gloves.Both work well :D
Due to multi-strike only count critical strike once, maybe use faster attacks instead will be a good idea



Last edited by scyllalice on Jul 22, 2014, 9:36:41 AM
I am running this build for a long time with recent 2 month break which was initiated by countless death by desync (originally started from Sblak build)...gettin frustrated more and more, 400 ex build and I am getting randomly one shoted in maps by exiles, cant do pretty much any higher lvl boss at all or its toss up if I survive (crema boss instant dead, tried with my mate, had 83% fire res, not a single damage modifier on map or anything, still she kills me in 1 second...any map version of dominus insta RIP, havent even bothered with atziri/uber would be just waste of time/exp). Insane desync all the time, countless deaths by gettin randomly stuck in nowhere unable to move, or just flickering and "missing" then when I "resync" back I am surrounded by mobs and get one shoted.

This build is great for lower lvl maps and trash mob clearing, the clear speed is insane and also the "wow" effect, but in terms of survivability and true end game content its just horrible, at least for me.

Please dont take this as a moaning towards your build, I am just trying to figure out how to make it work for end game content as Ive invested so much effort/time/currency into this and in the end its just gettin frustrating seeing that ppl with 10ex gear have better survivability then me lol

my gear:
Spoiler


passive:
Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABX0FtQzyEHsRLxGWFr8X2BmGGYoajx4aJ6koKio4Kk0rCi9vMFQwfD7PPydHBkrIUUdTNVYtVupW9VyKXvpfamNDbRltbG6qcFJwVnC7cNV7133jfyt_xofbiEKMC42_j_qQG5fQmVeZmpoTm7Wdo6KjpHily6Z_qW6sR6x_sbO0xbVItfK297k-uXy95r46wFHBAMHFwdXB88LswzrDbcpKzerQOdaK2RPbGttu29Te-OOE6f7rLOtj7BjssO1B8uHz6vVL9tr7Cfyr_5M=


I use MF setup (Aurseize, Wondertrap, IIQ and IIR gems) when I solo farm for currency, othervise I use full dps setup (Maligaro, Rainbowstride) and I snapshot and use high ES shield....even with that shield I have pisspoor 4.6 K ES only and that is my strongest setup with 0 MF :(

One last thing that that comes to my mind before I just sell everything and make some new build would be to to buy Acuity and get rid of VP and get more of those ES nodes from scion section of the tree but even then I just cant see how lets say 1K-1.5K more ES is going to let me survive the bosses you claim you can kill

please any help appreciated
Last edited by Aerinqq on Jul 21, 2014, 8:56:30 PM
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Aerinqq wrote:
I am running this build for a long time with recent 2 month break which was initiated by countless death by desync (originally started from Sblak build)...gettin frustrated more and more, 400 ex build and I am getting randomly one shoted in maps by exiles, cant do pretty much any higher lvl boss at all or its toss up if I survive (crema boss instant dead, tried with my mate, had 83% fire res, not a single damage modifier on map or anything, still she kills me in 1 second...any map version of dominus insta RIP, havent even bothered with atziri/uber would be just waste of time/exp). Insane desync all the time, countless deaths by gettin randomly stuck in nowhere unable to move, or just flickering and "missing" then when I "resync" back I am surrounded by mobs and get one shoted.

This build is great for lower lvl maps and trash mob clearing, the clear speed is insane and also the "wow" effect, but in terms of survivability and true end game content its just horrible, at least for me.

Please dont take this as a moaning towards your build, I am just trying to figure out how to make it work for end game content as Ive invested so much effort/time/currency into this and in the end its just gettin frustrating seeing that ppl with 10ex gear have better survivability then me lol

my gear:
Spoiler


passive:
Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABX0FtQzyEHsRLxGWFr8X2BmGGYoajx4aJ6koKio4Kk0rCi9vMFQwfD7PPydHBkrIUUdTNVYtVupW9VyKXvpfamNDbRltbG6qcFJwVnC7cNV7133jfyt_xofbiEKMC42_j_qQG5fQmVeZmpoTm7Wdo6KjpHily6Z_qW6sR6x_sbO0xbVItfK297k-uXy95r46wFHBAMHFwdXB88LswzrDbcpKzerQOdaK2RPbGttu29Te-OOE6f7rLOtj7BjssO1B8uHz6vVL9tr7Cfyr_5M=


I use MF setup (Aurseize, Wondertrap, IIQ and IIR gems) when I solo farm for currency, othervise I use full dps setup (Maligaro, Rainbowstride) and I snapshot and use high ES shield....even with that shield I have pisspoor 4.6 K ES only and that is my strongest setup with 0 MF :(

One last thing that that comes to my mind before I just sell everything and make some new build would be to to buy Acuity and get rid of VP and get more of those ES nodes from scion section of the tree but even then I just cant see how lets say 1K-1.5K more ES is going to let me survive the bosses you claim you can kill

please any help appreciated


Atziri's Acuity is pretty huge for this build. Before I got them I had gaps where I would flicker into a pack but not be able to flicker again due to mana and then get destroyed by the pack I was suddenly in the middle of. It's hard to overstate how good those gloves are, both in terms of damage and survivability.

Here are some examples, assuming I didn't screw up my math or any game mechanics:
Life/ES: In my gear, the average physical damage of my flicker with full power charges is 1944 and I flicker about 12 times per second. That's 12 * 1944=23328 physical DPS (assuming my mana can withstand it). With 15% life leech (Crown of Eyes, Blood Rage+level 2 Enhance) that means I leech back about 3500 ES per second (actually a bit less, but that's a rough average). Using Vaal Pact, that 3500 ES per second would drop to 1400 per second.
Mana: 12 flickers per second with an average cost of 109 mana means 1308 mana spent per second while flickering. Based on my physical damage listed above, my mana returned per second due to Atziri's Acuity instant leech effect and the 2% mana leech from Crown of Eyes is 467 per second (23328 * .02). I have a total mana pool of 724, so this is over half my mana per second. Using the Auxium belt with 5 power charges brings my mana leech up to about 1633 per second, allowing me to essentially flicker indefinitely (aside from having to stop and refresh my power charge stack with a Lightning Strike). By contrast, not using Atziri's Acuity means that your mana leech cannot exceed 12.5% maximum mana per second (unless you use a quality Mana Leech gem), which would only be about 91 mana per second for me.

Some of these numbers are a little off due to assumptions I made about crit and crit multi, but it should still give you a pretty clear idea about exactly how brokenly good Atziri's Acuity gloves are.

I consider Atziri's Acuity to be every bit as important to this build as Shavronne's+Prism+Crown of Eyes.

If you buy the gloves and then decide that this build just really isn't for you, I don't think you'd have trouble transitioning to something like Fyndel's Spectral Throw with your gear.
Last edited by Marbleshade on Jul 22, 2014, 11:15:08 AM
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Atziri's Acuity is pretty huge for this build. Before I got them I had gaps where I would flicker into a pack but not be able to flicker again due to mana and then get destroyed by the pack I was suddenly in the middle of. It's hard to overstate how good those gloves are, both in terms of damage and survivability.

Here are some examples, assuming I didn't screw up my math or any game mechanics:
Life/ES: In my gear, the average physical damage of my flicker with full power charges is 1944 and I flicker about 12 times per second. That's 12 * 1944=23328 physical DPS (assuming my mana can withstand it). With 15% life leech (Crown of Eyes, Blood Rage+level 2 Enhance) that means I leech back about 3500 ES per second (actually a bit less, but that's a rough average). Using Vaal Pact, that 3500 ES per second would drop to 1400 per second.
Mana: 12 flickers per second with an average cost of 109 mana means 1308 mana spent per second while flickering. Based on my physical damage listed above, my mana returned per second due to Atziri's Acuity instant leech effect and the 2% mana leech from Crown of Eyes is 467 per second (23328 * .02). I have a total mana pool of 724, so this is over half my mana per second. Using the Auxium belt with 5 power charges brings my mana leech up to about 1633 per second, allowing me to essentially flicker indefinitely (aside from having to stop and refresh my power charge stack with a Lightning Strike). By contrast, not using Atziri's Acuity means that your mana leech cannot exceed 12.5% maximum mana per second (unless you use a quality Mana Leech gem), which would only be about 91 mana per second for me.

Some of these numbers are a little off due to assumptions I made about crit and crit multi, but it should still give you a pretty clear idea about exactly how brokenly good Atziri's Acuity gloves are.

I consider Atziri's Acuity to be every bit as important to this build as Shavronne's+Prism+Crown of Eyes.

If you buy the gloves and then decide that this build just really isn't for you, I don't think you'd have trouble transitioning to something like Fyndel's Spectral Throw with your gear.


hey thx for the input...as much as I want to play this build (Ive always been in love with flicker) its currently not about what I prefer, rly unplayable...I die on average like 1-2 per hour of maping (getting one shoted, desync deaths, bugs...) leveling beyond what I am currently (lvl 85) is just getting impossible...Ill see how it is with acuity gloves, for reference, u dont have any of those issues I described? can u kill high lvl map bosses? u dont die to desync much? could you post your gear/ES and resist numbers?

cheers

edit: ye I was also thinking about transitioning to Alex spec throw build, question is if its gonna be viable after the big incoming patch, making that build now for 1 month and then find out that its no longer viable would kinda piss me off^^
Last edited by Aerinqq on Jul 22, 2014, 11:55:29 AM
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Aerinqq wrote:
I am running this build for a long time with recent 2 month break which was initiated by countless death by desync (originally started from Sblak build)...gettin frustrated more and more, 400 ex build and I am getting randomly one shoted in maps by exiles, cant do pretty much any higher lvl boss at all or its toss up if I survive (crema boss instant dead, tried with my mate, had 83% fire res, not a single damage modifier on map or anything, still she kills me in 1 second...any map version of dominus insta RIP, havent even bothered with atziri/uber would be just waste of time/exp). Insane desync all the time, countless deaths by gettin randomly stuck in nowhere unable to move, or just flickering and "missing" then when I "resync" back I am surrounded by mobs and get one shoted.

This build is great for lower lvl maps and trash mob clearing, the clear speed is insane and also the "wow" effect, but in terms of survivability and true end game content its just horrible, at least for me.

Please dont take this as a moaning towards your build, I am just trying to figure out how to make it work for end game content as Ive invested so much effort/time/currency into this and in the end its just gettin frustrating seeing that ppl with 10ex gear have better survivability then me lol

my gear:
Spoiler


passive:
Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABX0FtQzyEHsRLxGWFr8X2BmGGYoajx4aJ6koKio4Kk0rCi9vMFQwfD7PPydHBkrIUUdTNVYtVupW9VyKXvpfamNDbRltbG6qcFJwVnC7cNV7133jfyt_xofbiEKMC42_j_qQG5fQmVeZmpoTm7Wdo6KjpHily6Z_qW6sR6x_sbO0xbVItfK297k-uXy95r46wFHBAMHFwdXB88LswzrDbcpKzerQOdaK2RPbGttu29Te-OOE6f7rLOtj7BjssO1B8uHz6vVL9tr7Cfyr_5M=


I use MF setup (Aurseize, Wondertrap, IIQ and IIR gems) when I solo farm for currency, othervise I use full dps setup (Maligaro, Rainbowstride) and I snapshot and use high ES shield....even with that shield I have pisspoor 4.6 K ES only and that is my strongest setup with 0 MF :(

One last thing that that comes to my mind before I just sell everything and make some new build would be to to buy Acuity and get rid of VP and get more of those ES nodes from scion section of the tree but even then I just cant see how lets say 1K-1.5K more ES is going to let me survive the bosses you claim you can kill

please any help appreciated


I never had issues before acuity however I would consider them a sizable advantage.

What are ur stats? Resists, Crit chance, hit chance, Es w.o snapshotting. Armor/ev?

Blessed ur prism the resist roll is rly low.

None of you flasks are rolled properly and you are missing an evasion flask. You want surgeons mod on all flasks which you should be popping constantly. I have 40 something % physical mitigation and 60 something % evasion with flasks up, which is essentially always. Can't comment on much else atm as im on my phone at work and things display weird.
IGN:Flickfrap
Last edited by LoPan on Jul 22, 2014, 12:29:47 PM
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LoPan wrote:

I never had issues before acuity however I would consider them a sizable advantage.

What are ur stats? Resists, Crit chance, hit chance, Es w.o snapshotting. Armor/ev?

Blessed ur prism the resist roll is rly low.

None of you flasks are rolled properly and you are missing an evasion flask. You want surgeons mod on all flasks which you should be popping constantly. I have 40 something % physical mitigation and 60 something % evasion with flasks up, which is essentially always. Can't comment on much else atm as im on my phone at work and things display weird.


He can't reroll the implicit on the Prism Guardian, non-legacy Prism Guardians are stuck at 12%.
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Marbleshade wrote:
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LoPan wrote:

I never had issues before acuity however I would consider them a sizable advantage.

What are ur stats? Resists, Crit chance, hit chance, Es w.o snapshotting. Armor/ev?

Blessed ur prism the resist roll is rly low.

None of you flasks are rolled properly and you are missing an evasion flask. You want surgeons mod on all flasks which you should be popping constantly. I have 40 something % physical mitigation and 60 something % evasion with flasks up, which is essentially always. Can't comment on much else atm as im on my phone at work and things display weird.


He can't reroll the implicit on the Prism Guardian, non-legacy Prism Guardians are stuck at 12%.


When did prism go legacy? Shows how much i pay attention.
IGN:Flickfrap
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LoPan wrote:
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Marbleshade wrote:
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LoPan wrote:

I never had issues before acuity however I would consider them a sizable advantage.

What are ur stats? Resists, Crit chance, hit chance, Es w.o snapshotting. Armor/ev?

Blessed ur prism the resist roll is rly low.

None of you flasks are rolled properly and you are missing an evasion flask. You want surgeons mod on all flasks which you should be popping constantly. I have 40 something % physical mitigation and 60 something % evasion with flasks up, which is essentially always. Can't comment on much else atm as im on my phone at work and things display weird.


He can't reroll the implicit on the Prism Guardian, non-legacy Prism Guardians are stuck at 12%.


When did prism go legacy? Shows how much i pay attention.


lol I couldn't tell you, to be honest. I took a long break from the game so I'm not sure.
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I never had issues before acuity however I would consider them a sizable advantage.

What are ur stats? Resists, Crit chance, hit chance, Es w.o snapshotting. Armor/ev?

Blessed ur prism the resist roll is rly low.

None of you flasks are rolled properly and you are missing an evasion flask. You want surgeons mod on all flasks which you should be popping constantly. I have 40 something % physical mitigation and 60 something % evasion with flasks up, which is essentially always. Can't comment on much else atm as im on my phone at work and things display weird.


stats with no charges: resits are capped, crit chance 58% without any charges, hit chance 89%, ES 3.4K (4.5 with ES shield), armour next to none (5%)

I dont use prism guardian at all in maps as I wouldnt be able to do any above like lvl 74 with such ES...I only use it for normal dominus farm as thats just the max I can do with this amount of ES and I still RIP there sometimes
I'd say use the Prism Guardian (not only because of the reduced mana reserve and resists, but also because the +1 to gems is extremely strong), but get good ES boots first (200 ES+ at least) and get Atziri's Acuity (the int on them is worth 12-16% increased max energy shield, basically one and a half to two energy shield passives' worth of ES). The gloves also free up 14 passives (VP and the evasion nodes spent getting to it as well as Mana Geyser) or more that you can spend on ES/damage. The passive tree you posted had 103 passives spent, so here is how I would spent those points once you have the gloves:
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBX0FtQzyEHsRLxGWFr8ZihqPHhonqSgqKwovbzBUMHw-z0cGUUdTNVbqVvVcil9qY0NtGW1scFJwVnC7e9d9438rf8aH24hCjAuNv4_6kBuX0JlXmZqaE5u1naOio6R4pcumf7GztMW1SLb3uT65fL3mvjrAUcEAwcXB1cHzwuzDbc3q1orZE9sa227b1N7444Tp_utj7BjssO1B8uHz6vVL9tr7Cfyr_5M74eL3pysc3JMntAxGceGI6ro0CjdmLKaQ1jyOLR9Ms1Aw214=

I would also link your Blood Rage to an Enhance gem if you can get one, each level of Enhance over 1 provides another 1.6% life leech and 6% attack speed.

Like Lopan said, change your flasks to Surgeon flasks and get used to spamming them. The mitigation from flasks is huge and they will have extremely high uptime with your build's crit rate (don't skimp out on quality for them). For bosses, use Lightning Strike on any nearby adds to max out on Frenzy+Power charges, and then Flicker the boss down. Your damage is your survivability, you should be able to kill bosses like Piety within a second or two depending on map mods. For bosses like Piety, Megaera, and Dominus, dodge the main attack (lightning ball, firestorm, lightning lasers) and then flask up and flicker in. If you burn through all of your Frenzy charges and the boss is still alive, Whirling Blades out and use Lightning Strike from a distance. For longer boss fights like Atziri you will probably have to swap out Flicker for Double Strike.

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