[1-2.0] CoC Sci/Sha/Ran/Due with Block - Song of Ice and Fire. Cheap. Fun. Nerfed

I don't know if it's true that coc will be nerfed by 20% trigger chance. If it is true i'm sad.

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kompaniet wrote:

I don't know if it's true that coc will be nerfed by 20% trigger chance. If it is true i'm sad.

True. It's not so bad, only flat 20% - won't notice it too much in the high levels but low-levels, it's gunna hurt.

We only have about 50% crit chance with this build. I think we will noticed the lowered trigger rate on coc.

Why is there a need to nerf everything that is fun in this game?

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kompaniet wrote:

We only have about 50% crit chance with this build. I think we will noticed the lowered trigger rate on coc.

Why is there a need to nerf everything that is fun in this game?

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Chris_GGG wrote:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL

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Chundadragon wrote:

Mmhmhm

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgAACGf56Bg8vSeTOpitKPqCx9i9_gq3PkGHNZL-j03jplc64fJFt9aDCbGQLajbWcSilwYtgxmKm7XDOspKb57b1JAbEZZwVpoTOkJLeN2oMHHUIwW16NYi6ha_D6tTNWHiJpWMNlVLH0EDHrVIBiNwUioL8-pw1YnTXfIOSNaKfyswfFFHjb__3iT951RNkiP2jX1jcDSTtkFOKluv3Q38xVb6d9e-p-_jhTJ08RjbSVHw1ZUuBx7bC4IeiELBxX_GwONLV_Gz0_xcsAlY26fBi_66u-N3B4cTnKRKfYd2Z6A=

Good one. Replace Nightstalker with Twin Terrors and EB/MoM tree is minmaxed.

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DentaGram wrote:

for shadow?

http://tinyurl.com/mrpsfky

Adder's Touch is a waste, some dagger nodes too.

My attempts (no EB/MoM):

Scion:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGe31pM621m9Jy2oGDyxkPnogwmCx0GHb54o-rc-nKTKSvGzmK3-CocTwzpLV_JF2L13B5u1wOM64TWSIuqmV_6P6NZN45smBbXndDIBBfmNv9QjbWyyGZcGUUcwcbVINj3PesSi51QwfN2o8-oGI52qu-Mk_X8rjX1LeCoLH0FirGyM_rr_3taKd9cj9jpCcFIDHlb6TZKJ0xa__MVw1SaVZ6DdDV3yYeKHdluvVUtKfRjbTiqMNsGLtkHbpzSTCVhjcFyw7-PT_L6nFfZieQAG7LCMC7l8

Shadow:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2VUth4iaVFr8DHh9BBiO1SG1s8-rndDY9Kgvo1p2q7LBwUpsmBbVirGyMjAuJ0zIBBfmNv9QjuXxw1bIZlwZRRzBxXfLPesSi51QwfN2ou-Mk_X8rjX1LeP66_97WinfXI_Y6Qlb6TZL8xWeg3Q2HdluvLOlKfRjbTioVIMGLFfa2QSpN26dieTSTPyd9WwlYAAZjcErIrEdcsO_jbqpRTNP8vqe18spKNZJvnv6P2L2DCZyk8bNN4_4KhxNLV6ZXtz7yRXcHwOM64UGH-eiCxyj6mK0=

These trees share a problem: not enough str and int, have to get stats on gear. There are four +30 nodes up to grab though.

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kompaniet wrote:

I don't know if it's true that coc will be nerfed by 20% trigger chance. If it is true i'm sad.

23% nerf for level 20 gem, 40% for level 1.
Switch to CoC will have to be delayed till level 55 or so.
On a bright side, when this build was created, CoC had the same 20% less proc chance and I was fine in maps with it.

My trees have 167% max life.
With my gear I will have more total life than with 230% in 1.1.
4153 in 1.1.
(4153 / 3.3 + 4 * 86) * 2.67 = 4278 in 1.2.

Also, in 1.2 Ice Spear may do better than Arctic Breath.
Contentrated effect then becomes useless and elemental equilibrium more questionable.

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SunnyRay wrote:

Scion:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAAYEfgW1CGcOSBGWFfAV9ha_GDwa2xzcHpQj9iQ8JP0mlSepKPotqDB8NJM6WEZxSVFKfUxgTipRR1VLVvpaSFptW69d8mHiYnlirGNwZ6Bte3BScLtw1XRBd9d9dX8rf8aCx4MJhxmHdofbjDaNfY2_kyeTOpP8mK2do52qp1yqf6q4rD-uz7GQtAy1SLZBt9a7470nvqfAUcSi0O7TftQj1QDWitad21ncV90N3efe9uOE51TndOjW6xTrju4O73rv4-_w8Xbz6vej-ej8q_zF_rrdqMaiMHFLeDpC

Shadow:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2VUth4iaVFr8DHh9BBiO1SG1s8-rndDY9Kgvo1p2q7LBwUpsmBbVirGyMjAuJ0zIBBfmNv9QjuXxw1bIZlwZRRzBxXfLPesSi51QwfN2ou-Mk_X8rjX1LeP66_97WinfXI_Y6Qlb6TZL8xWeg3Q2HdluvLOlKfRjbTioVIMGLFfa2QSpN26dieTSTPyd9WwlYAAZjcErIrEdcsO_jbqpRTNP8vqe18spKNZJvnv6P2L2DCZyk8bNN4_4KhxNLV6ZXtz7yRXcHwOM64UGH-eiCxyj6mK0=

Scion tree appears to be 1.1.5?

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mallow wrote:

Scion tree appears to be 1.1.5?

Oops, that's the old tree. Fixed, thank you.

Real scion tree.

That tree only has 18 points spent, and the Shadow tree is blank, unless I'm going crazy.

I brought this up in my own thread, but more people seem to be reading this one: thoughts on replacing Concentrated Effect and Arctic Breath with Ice Spear and Power Charge On Crit? Spear is getting buffed from 157–235 at 20 to 294-441, Breath is being nerfed by 20% according to the beta, so from 467–701 to ~374-560, but the spears have 600% more crit, so...idk? Anyone better at theory than me have an idea? :)

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Lemmata wrote:

That tree only has 18 points spent, and the Shadow tree is blank, unless I'm going crazy.

I brought this up in my own thread, but more people seem to be reading this one: thoughts on replacing Concentrated Effect and Arctic Breath with Ice Spear and Power Charge On Crit?

That's 1.2 tree, load it to updated PoESkillTree or poebuilder. It won't open correctly on official site until 1.2 is live.

Ice spear may well be the best choice for anything in 1.2 including this build :)
Question is should we keep fireball and elemental equilibrium after removing arctic breath.
Theory is hard, practice will give an answer :)

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SunnyRay wrote:

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Lemmata wrote:

That tree only has 18 points spent, and the Shadow tree is blank, unless I'm going crazy.

I brought this up in my own thread, but more people seem to be reading this one: thoughts on replacing Concentrated Effect and Arctic Breath with Ice Spear and Power Charge On Crit?

Theory is hard, practice will give an answer :)

i'm considering rolling this or something similar for Beyond, but have never even tried CoC, so i'm hoping you or someone else will respec a current character and do a bit of testing before I start :P