The Illusion of Complexity

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Fruz wrote:

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deteego wrote:

IR is broken because in min/max games like PoE, having a massive amount of defense is almost always better then having a mediocre amount of one defense and a mediocre amount of another defense, especially with defenses increasing multiplicatively like they do in PoE.

When you take into account items, its much easier to get a 400 + 400 Evasion/Armor chest then it is to get a 800 Armor chest, or 800 Evasion chest, simply due to how rolls work. Then you combine it with things like flasks (granite/jade) and determination multiplying all of that as well

IR would be just as broken if it was with evasion instead of armor.

First of all, have your really tried a hybrid ev/ar char ? I bet no.
ev/ar is more effective in term of survability because it protects you against all kind of hits, the small ones, and the big ones. The only real exception being builds stacking tremendous amount of armor + using a granite flask of Iron skin.
But actually, a good ar/ve build ( with a good gear then ) would reach almost the same armor value ( let's say that the chest only has two good rolls for the ar/ev since the last one is life, and that ar is the flat one ).

Secondly, you can get 700ev + 300 armor on a hybrid chest with one roll, there are just two different rolls that can lead to 800ev. But anyway, 800 evasion alone is unsignificant due to how easy it is to roll it. Chests start being good in term of evasion/armor from ~1500 ( = two rolls ).
And getting a ~1500 evasion chest is as easy as getting a ~1300 evasion + ~600 armor ( or the other way around ), so your datas/examples are just wrong.

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deteego wrote:

My highest level character is a pure evasion phase acrobatics build, so yes I do know how evasion builds work perfectly well.

Other people have done a much better job in dismissing your argument so there is nothing else left to say

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Fruz wrote:

Let's get 2k with grace or even 3k with 50% inc aura ( but I doubt everyone will afford a real lot of aura nodes in addition to the %inc armor ones ).
now 2.5k from the chest ( with a life roll on it I mean ).

We are still missing 5.5k.
If we have 1k on the hood/gloves/helmet we need only 2.5k, with an almost-perfect one we reach 10k.

So yeah, I doubt that anyone reaches that much, in theory this is possible ( I remembered, wrongly, that 2k was with a life roll and 2.5 without one ).

Now I'm curious about your 12k ( and still about the 500%inc too ).

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Autocthon wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Let's get 2k with grace or even 3k with 50% inc aura ( but I doubt everyone will afford a real lot of aura nodes in addition to the %inc armor ones ).
now 2.5k from the chest ( with a life roll on it I mean ).

We are still missing 5.5k.
If we have 1k on the hood/gloves/helmet we need only 2.5k, with an almost-perfect one we reach 10k.

So yeah, I doubt that anyone reaches that much, in theory this is possible ( I remembered, wrongly, that 2k was with a life roll and 2.5 without one ).

Now I'm curious about your 12k ( and still about the 500%inc too ).

I wasn't making any claims of it happening in game. Just that it could in theory happen where you gain an essentially "more" effect from Iron Skin effects, though the maximum +% armour possible is ~300% or so.