1.3 [Newbie Friendly] GROUNDSLAMMER BUILD

Also i found a lvl59 295physDPS (+44 fire dmg) Mace. It's barely worth using it and you could probably find something much better with 1-2 chaos, but if you are lvl59 and broke (lol), you can have it...

@DjNanos

I need to ask questions in order to learn more about this game. So do not get mad at me for asking questions

1. Why did you decide not to increase the maximum amount of endurance charges?

2. Why did you decide to not pick up the two life nodes and Thick Skin?

3. Did you do that to get the extra dex nodes? I could easily get a little more dex by picking up quickness and getting the extra life node in the life circle near IR.

Here is a link to the build.

What DPS were you guys seeing on your skills once you entered merci?

Lvl + DPS


With mostly store/found gear, what kind of DPS can I expect?

@Monty_The_3rd
Alright then, but could you tell me if the Item Rarity gem I just picked up today is worth using? Also, is Temporal Chain a good curse or should I stick with Warlord's Mark?
With a 6l piece of equipment, lets say I have Ground Slam/Heavy Strike supported with Added Fire DMG, Life Leech, Melee DMG and Faster Attacks like OP recommends. What are some good options for the 6th socket? (I don't have many good gems, but ones I have that I think might be useable are Concentrated Effect, Increased AoE and Added Cold DMG)

I hope you don't mind all the questions, but it seems like you know a lot about this. A few more things:

I've seen a lot of people post their passive tree and they haven't taken Blood Magic. Why is that?

Last one for now: I find myself using Leap Slam almost only for mobilty, not as a damage spell. I don't want to jump into mobs and get instantly killed since I'm so squishy, or am I doing something wrong? Since I'm using it only to move around and position myself, do I really need to support it with Added Fire Damage, Melee Physical Damage and Life Leech like it says in the first post?

Once again, sorry for all the questions.


@eirstryder

I have only store bought gear or items that I found, and I have about 2100 dmg on Heavy Strike and 1150 on Ground Slam. I'm level 59 and in act 1 in Merciless.



I saw someone talk about gaining charges with Endurance Cry. You will gain a charge even if there is only 1 monster present, and since the skill stacks with itself, you can cast it multiple times and gain max charges, even if there is only 1 monster near you.

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Monty_The_3rd wrote:

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elloy wrote:

...im 100% sure i castet it several times in a mob and never got the buff...

Something doesn't sound right there...

First of all check that the Charges are ok, in the "Charges" tab: http://imgur.com/pqtkBIc
Then just stand next to a pack and cast EndCry. If the spell activates ok (you have the mana to cast it etc), then you should get at least one charge up, it will pop up in an icon like this: http://imgur.com/TNGHkeK

I am sure there is a simple explanation for this...

EDIT:
Now that i see a lvl1 EndCry, it gives "9 Charges per 100 enemies", that is 0.9 Charges/10... So you would need more than 10 mobs within range for a single charge :/
What lvl is your gem?
I use a lvl7 (21 per 100) and my Charges build up relatively quickly (first 2-4 packs for 5 Charges) and they stay pretty much at max or max -1 all the time...

thx for that - ill check soon and get back to you with results ;)

---> Disclaimer: i am not an expert! <---


@eirstryder:
I can't answer your first question, but i can help with the second one:

"With mostly store/found gear, what kind of DPS can I expect?"
Low DPS xD

At some point you will have to spend a bit of currency for gear friend...
Most of the times a 1 chaos piece will be a nice upgrade from the crap you find (depends on your drops ofc).


@Exiled_Wanderer:
Like i keep posting, i am not an expert by any means, but here is my opinion:

I wouldn't use the Rarity gem. I tried MFing and you might get more Rare drops, but they are still the same crap Rares you vendor right away... Sockets in links are valuable, better use something that really helps you.
In a 6L using the gems you mention, i would go for Multistrike next, no question about it. One can also go for ConcEffect for GS, if he can handle the reduced range. And if you are going to use a second Add-X-dmg gem, go for Chaos dmg instead of Cold ;)

About dropping the BM node, once you reach lvl70 or so, your build is pretty much 95% complete and your skill points left to gain are numbered, so you can't hope for much more from your tree. It's all about gear at that point.
Some people opt to go for dropping BM/using Auras at that point, in order to get the benefits of using multiple Auras.
This was kind of "the norm" pre-release (when using 3 Auras was super easy), now you need to work harder to get more than two (in our build at least) so if it's still worth it a debatable subject...

Personally i have never used LeapS as an attack... I too use it for mobility, but unfortunately it's an attack and it uses your weapon, so since i got my Marohi it became veeeeeerrrrrrryyyyyy ssssssslllllllooooooowwwwwwww.............
I still kept it on linked with Faster Attacks so i can jump on ledges and cut corners in Docks or in maps, or leaping away from danger in some cases. Lately i needed my 2nd slot for other gems so now i only use it alone, i won't mind much dropping it completely if i need the sockets for other stuff...

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DoomCarpace wrote:

@DjNanos

I need to ask questions in order to learn more about this game. So do not get mad at me for asking questions

1. Why did you decide not to increase the maximum amount of endurance charges?

2. Why did you decide to not pick up the two life nodes and Thick Skin?

3. Did you do that to get the extra dex nodes? I could easily get a little more dex by picking up quickness and getting the extra life node in the life circle near IR.

Here is a link to the build.

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_Pfx8uCkuVEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7ayqcql82VnzwBrkrWdY3sGQVaeEGjjsOFfiMokEsxRNAnHwH6IAqWiDOO98e4whAir2IVU5Dtw9wQQS2Ro-8axgxCE0Ozs26AHnpzD3vhQgUEcYkcmYpmQPzPyJ6wkJlicgWK94DalutfJuqkrINZL-j03jplc64fJF_grnY4jxrFkxnj8nKk0VIIPb_EvOcSzphyndDfzFZ6CHdkp9W69OKimln8tsRnJsMglR5rQvQT8=

Dont know why u asking me..im still a newbie but imma answer

1. Its 4 and ill get just 1 to get to 5 imo 5 is enough O.o
2. I did pick them....
3. I got 2 +30 nodes one for dex and one int plus one that gives 20-20, i got them untill i get my gems to 20 and make them lv1 and 20Q then ill remove them
The build you linked isnt mine..

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Monty_The_3rd wrote:

@DjNanos:
About armor, well there is the diminishing returns rule in every stat, but it's the stacking of mods that makes the difference:
Only one +10% life/dmg/armor node will not make much of a difference, but a build that stacks 20 of those nodes will be better than a build that only stacks 14 of them, then the difference matters...

That is (part of) why i am reluctant to suggest the use of IR to people:
Personally i didn't follow this build until very late, and i took IR very early (around lvl60) because it was much closer and easier to get pre-release.
Now that it's so far away, i am not sure if it's worth it (it's not if you go strait for that without taking useful nodes along the way imo). I am not even so sure if it's worth it as a node (even if you are right next to it)...

Be able to use EV gear is a small plus, but far too small to make it worth it (and you should get AR gear and not EV anyways).
And Grace was great at low-lvls, but at this points it makes little difference from Determination:
Granite flask tests:http://imgur.com/a/32zep
lvl19 Molten Shell tests:http://imgur.com/a/qn0cd
*fun with Jade+Granite Flasks and both Grace and Det auras:http://imgur.com/Fe3BcU6

I just have 1k eva and not sure if its worth it yo keep it as eva or make it AR...

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Monty_The_3rd wrote:

Your current tree is very close to mine, it will be a costly multi-point respec to go "around" the Duelist area instead....

My current tree

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAdwB5wJxBLMJlg_MFCAUTRiRGS4aOBv6Jd8nICftKaUt0jGeMgk1kjboOtg64T38QT9HfkrITdhN404qUEdQUFHmVElXDVhjWK9Z818_ZU1qHmqTbEZuaW6qcmxyqXgNfNmBb4M4hNmI8Yx2jM-QVZHOmSuePJ7Nn8uiAKQZplemZKcwp4SoGKloqW6rxaxZrKq0L7XytkG53b2Bvoq-p8APwBrG2MmY0iHSTdXt2WHeweSt51LnY-sJ7DjvDu988B_yL_JF8932SPe-_In-Cv6P

Just a quick tree without IR (not very good):

Spoiler

http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgEAAecCcQSzBS0Jlg_MEtkS4RQgFE0YkRkuGYUaOBo-GlUhAiE0IVUkqicgJ-0pLir2MZ4yCTKJNZI26DbpOQ464Ts7PfxBP0rITeNQR1BQUeZUSVfiWGNYr1nzXz9gS2DEYSFko2aeZ1hsRm6qcmxyqXTteA1673uMfLh82YM4hO-I8YzPkFWfy6IAplemZKcwp4SpaKlurFmsqrQvtfK53cAawQTG2MmY1I_cPd7B42rkredS52PrCew47w7vfPAf8azyL_JF8932SPe--tL8if4K_o8=

5726 Life
4909AR (+571EV "wasted")
HS 15.172DPS

your 106p from your last post:
5975 Life
3838AR + 650EV
HS 14.011DPS

*Btw, this is the text with my gear that i use in poeBuilder, i don't know if it can be used by others, but it would be great to try-out gear (sites estimates are better than nothing in some cases):
http://pastebin.com/NaMKLJg9

I wouldnt respec all of the duelist nods..i was going to get them anyways but i wanted to get them like @90lvl or so.. nvm..i guess im just gonna get other nodes later.









PS: Shit sry for double posting, i forgot to edit my prev message while i was quoting

@DjNanos

There either is something wrong with my eyesight or the website where that planner is at. Because I doubled checked your build and I did not see the life nodes and Thick Skin turned on. Also I fail to see the other 2 +30 dex nodes that are turned on in that build.

So this raises a question. Do I need to be a registered member and logged in, in order to proper see someone else's planned build?

I re-rolled a Marauder to play with some friends on Standard.

Following the guide...so far so great :)


GEAR



I assume the ultimate weapon would be a Mahoi, but for now I have a Geofri's Baptism.

What should I shoot for in terms of a "bridge" mace after the Geofri's loses it's lustre? What should be the mininum pDPS and Attack Speed? Should anything else be sought? I assume stuff like resists are gravy...and for this build "accuracy" is worthless due to Resolute Tech...

I assume I should strive for a Mahori's, but until then what should I try and get in terms of pDPS, Attack Speed, Sockets/Links?

And what should I pay? I never know the value of stuff I look at and inevitably get ripped off.