[Poll] Self Found League - SFL /FINISHED

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Arrowneous wrote:
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Blitzstreik wrote:
So why cant you just play SF in the current leagues?


Lamer #1
Of course you can play SF style in any league. But you won't ever experience the total PoE game because you will be grinding forever to acquire jewellers, fusings, alchs, etc. and eventually your interest in playing will grind to a halt.

Lamer #2
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Xavderion wrote:
D.) Without an increase in drop rates (which would never happen), the league would be extremely niche because it would be frustrating for most people since the drop rates are balanced around trading. No need to waste time on this for the handful of people who would play it.

The whole reason for an SF league is to increase drop rates dramatically to be able to gamble... cough, cough... craft better gear. I do enjoy using jewellers to see if I can 5S or 6S an item and then fuse it to get 5L or with luck a 6L item. The state of PoE right now is that there is no league where you can acquire enough of these to do that kind of crafting. Saving all jewellers and fusings and only craft in late game is a waste of a good game feature. Since trade chat is crap (I quit D3 after 4 months because the AH was/is a crap way for Blizzard to milk the players out of more money), it is a clear signal to all players that the devs are stating (without saying it) that "you will never ever get what you want by doing it yourself". So I must always give in to the dark side of any arpg and trade for the items I want and can never craft it myself? That's a crappy way to treat the loyal solo player fan base.

Sorry for discussing this but the minority who don't want an SFL always have lame reasons for being against it and they are posting their 2¢ so we can't let Wookie win this time.


What we need is a higher chance of getting a decent item by crafting and higher orb drops. To hell with the SFL haters, make it happen GGG, give us what we so desperately need.
A); SFL would be great. I don't like Trade-Simulator.
Last edited by Arodian#1870 on Dec 1, 2013, 5:06:48 PM
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Arrowneous wrote:

Sorry for discussing this but the minority who don't want an SFL always have lame reasons for being against it and they are posting their 2¢ so we can't let Wookie win this time.


The problem is that people have different ideas of a SFL. What exactly does the OP describe that's not achievable currently and different?

You'll be asking for increased drops, to start with right? This is understandable because drops can suck ass in the game and the expense in terms of time/reward isn't for everyone. The way it scales in end-game doesn't really help.

It boils down to difficulty (a vague term, to say the least), which trading invariably influences.

So, what if I wanted to play in a SFL but that has roughly the same drops as currently (even lower for certain things) but adjusted end-game accessibility, no shared stash (and limited/no stash), no permanent allocation yet still supporting partying (albeit restricted)?

That's still some form of SFL right, but it's not quite the same as the one you'd want, or the OP describes.

What exactly do people want, I generally struggle to relate, is it just instanced crazy drop fests without trading, or at the least rebalanced to account for no trading?
without changes in drop rate: C+/B+
with buff to drop rate: D-/F

I've softened a little bit in my previous stance, if I was GGG I'd introduce a single self-found league: it would be called Season-Long Solo. It would be technically an Event, and give reward points, Demigod's, all that; like most races, it would be Hardcore. At the end of each race season, just like with all completed races, the Season-Long Solo would be moved to Hardcore, and dead characters would go to Standard.

I guess if you want to get really technical, SFLs already exist; every Solo race is one.

In terms of drop rates, that's a shitty solution to self-found issues, but the problem remains... in all leagues. Self-found should be fixed globally, by making adjustments to the entire game, not by segregating it.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Dec 1, 2013, 5:22:33 PM
E) I would only do self-found if crafting was redesigned to not feature such prevalent RNG, and currency drops were frequent enough that I could modify my gear more easily. It's ridiculous that the reason I have to resort to trading is because I can't craft my own stuff.
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Lord_Kamster wrote:
E) I would only do self-found if crafting was redesigned to not feature such prevalent RNG, and currency drops were frequent enough that I could modify my gear more easily. It's ridiculous that the reason I have to resort to trading is because I can't craft my own stuff.


I love how 50% of the trade chat is "6L my shit and win 'x' Exalted Orbs", but people still argue that there is nothing wrong with PoE's gambling system. The gambling system is so bad that the trading arena has turned into video poker.

Give us a SFL and increase drop rates by 5000%. Yes, it would literally take a 5000% increase to make a SFL doable. Doing 300 Piety runs for 2 unique pirate hats and 7 thousand weapons under 100 dps wouldn't work, so the increase would have to be insane.

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nGio wrote:
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Lord_Kamster wrote:
E) I would only do self-found if crafting was redesigned to not feature such prevalent RNG, and currency drops were frequent enough that I could modify my gear more easily. It's ridiculous that the reason I have to resort to trading is because I can't craft my own stuff.


I love how 50% of the trade chat is "6L my shit and win 'x' Exalted Orbs", but people still argue that there is nothing wrong with PoE's gambling system. The gambling system is so bad that the trading arena has turned into video poker.

Give us a SFL and increase drop rates by 5000%. Yes, it would literally take a 5000% increase to make a SFL doable. Doing 300 Piety runs for 2 unique pirate hats and 7 thousand weapons under 100 dps wouldn't work, so the increase would have to be insane.



SFL league is for the 1990 single player games. We are in the multiplayer online gaming era, bro. Get with the program.
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nGio wrote:

Give us a SFL and increase drop rates by 5000%.


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F) Forum polls suck for various reasons.


The horse is beaten to death and, as a developer, I would take detailed self-found feedback over a ridiculous small community poll a million times. I however play self-found most the time and enjoy myself doing so on a rather casual rate.
A)

would play this exclusively and be stoked beyond belief about it, too.


...as long as drop rates on uniques were improved to make up for it.

i want a d2 style looting experience again. x_x

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