About to stop playing PoE - maps drop rates are very disappointing

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Moosifer wrote:

I haven't read any of this thread and don't plan to there's one every couple weeks. I think people find 1-3 maps start running them and wonder why they ran out.

Watch how races work and talk to guys who are in the top 10 of them all the time. They all tend to do the same thing depending on their luck. They get finished with act 2 around 53-57, then head to fellshrine and lvl until 63-70 gathering whatever they feel is enough maps for them never have to farm act 2 for maps again, some say 5, personally I think 10 is better. Then they take their higher lvl toon to kill vaal at a lower risk (HC afterall) then do maps until the race ends.

You can easily go 5 maps without a single one dropping but you can also get 20 over the course of 5. RNG is a bitch but making everything standard and boring takes the fun out of it. If you get one map every time then finding 5 isn't a big deal.

D3 listened to everyone complain that rare mobs weren't dropping rare items. Next thing you know guaranteed rare item. Farming became even more boring because there was no variable to worry about. Find rare pack, kill it, find useless rare, repeat until you fall asleep or throw up because you are allowing yourself to keep doing this shit.

Leave RNG random, the fun and excitement comes from being rewarded much more than you should, getting screwed makes the enjoyment even better.

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square0 wrote:

I don't know, they just did 4 runs of the same content over and over, can you blame them for wanting to try something new immediately?

otherwise I agree, random loot is ultimately more fresh and adds tons of longevity to the game

and I can't really speak personally for the drop rates of maps since my last experience with them was in 0.9.11 and I haven't leveled a character back up to merciless yet

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Moosifer wrote:

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square0 wrote:

I don't know, they just did 4 runs of the same content over and over, can you blame them for wanting to try something new immediately?

otherwise I agree, random loot is ultimately more fresh and adds tons of longevity to the game

and I can't really speak personally for the drop rates of maps since my last experience with them was in 0.9.11 and I haven't leveled a character back up to merciless yet

It's an arpg, doing the same content only 4 times in a row sounds wonderful. Go look at the spreadsheet I posted on page 2. I did over 140 lvl 60 maps, that's on one toon. Also I had 2 lvl 99s on D2 lod and had like 1b gold worth of gear on D3 before quitting. I know boredom my friend, these games aren't about new content. I keep saying it MMOs have ruined people's expectations of arpgs.

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Map drop rates are fine, higher lvl ones are rare and needs currency investment to chain a bunch of lvl 65+ maps. This is okay. Guaranteed drops are shit and I hope GGG will never cave in to the demands of people who apparently have zero clue on the topic at hand. Why do we need to repeat this crap every other week?

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DragonRU wrote:

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Map drop rates are fine, higher lvl ones are rare and needs currency investment to chain a bunch of lvl 65+ maps. This is okay. Guaranteed drops are shit and I hope GGG will never cave in to the demands of people who apparently have zero clue on the topic at hand. Why do we need to repeat this crap every other week?

Right now I trying to figure out why my different toons have different maps drop rate. If running white maps you will get 0.81 map drops in average - that's fine. Moreover, 2 of my toons had similar drop rate and it is comletely OK. Problem is that my favorite toons - cold crit witch and necro witch have drop rate almost 2 times lower than this. I had 1.12 map drops in average for spork witch with +52% adjusted map quality, but 0.87 drops for cold crit witch with +64% adjusted map quality and 0.8 drops for necro witch with +76% adjusted map quality.

Maps drop rate for spork witch is very close to Moosifer data, and I happy with this drop rate. But for cold crit and necro witch drop rate is way below than it should be. That's why I need to figure out before OB starts - what causes it? Does it comes because shattered mobs sometimes does not drop loot even when they should? In this case I will have to stop use cold crit build. Or maps drop rate is somewhere divided to personal IIQ, and more IIQ means less map drops?

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I said my data would give a MILD idea. I was getting huge variations in my 61 data. It was anywhere from 85% to 60% even over 50 maps completed. If you hold my data in stone you are going to be very disappointed.

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DragonRU wrote:

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I said my data would give a MILD idea. I was getting huge variations in my 61 data. It was anywhere from 85% to 60% even over 50 maps completed. If you hold my data in stone you are going to be very disappointed.

I understand it. However it not so difficult to calculate standard deviation for this estimation. I think that average number of maps dropped does not depend what map level you runs.

In this case standard deviation would be sqrt(0.81/341) * 100% = 4.9%. And, according to your data, we have 95% probability that real number is between 71.2% and 90.8%