Pillar of the Caged God - Spectral Throw - Knockback Marauder
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Staff reads "Increased Physical WEAPON Damage". I think that this is the key thing that is overlooked when calculating damage with this staff. I have been researching builds and trying to break this item (to replace my favorite build - facebreaker.facesmasher.boom) and keep seeing, time and time again, people saying the DPS is underwhelming.
I am curious to see living stat proof if flat physical, from say a ring, is calculated into the massive % damage increase. I would think that it is not and that the only thing scaling is the low staff physical damage. Perhaps the way to break it is to take the physical and, through some means, convert it into ele and then scale it (AoF and IB come to mind - but untested with max node support). Food for thought - let me know your ideas/thoughts...I really want some massive p.dps again. EDIT: Just saw this where Mark confirms that Pillar is WEAPON damage and not PHYSICAL damage, thus preventing it from scaling in the same manner that Facebreakers did (stacking +physical) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/486599/page/1 Back to [] 1 EVERYTHING IS BETTER WHEN IT'S TACO-FLAVORED! Last edited by mrtannerwold#6441 on Nov 5, 2013, 1:11:06 PM
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" Oohh - true, it's physical WEAPON damage. This means the staff is useless, for me :-) Someone wants my 6L? C/O is 15 ex. |
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I'm not too sure, but I remember that when I equipped a ring with +phys dmg, the dps tooltip scaled way more than what I added... I always thought that the +16% per 10 str scaled the added damage too, so I interpreted "weapon physical damage" as "damage dealt with weapon", so attacks and not spells...
IGN: Nanaya_Kiri
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Are you sure you guys aren't just approaching it wrong? It isn't just a weapon version of facebreakers. Anyone have any info on damage with things like Astramentis and Deshret's Vise? Those two uniques alone could give up to +220 str, or 352% increased phys weapon damage, and that's before str from passives.
I'm not saying it'll necessarily make it amazing all of a sudden, but maybe treating pillar as a 100% facebreaker stand-in isn't the right way to try to fully take advantage of what it can do. SC Talisman: HVOR
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Facebreakers are like star destroyers - and i thought that this babe is a super star destroyer. But it's only a tie fighter :-)
Some nice uniques with str: amus: Daresso's Salute, 16-24 dex+str, and 60% melee physical damage Karui Wand, 20-30 dex+str, and projectile stuff belt: headhunter, 44-50 dex+str, and moar magnate, 40-50 str, and physical damage % meginords girdle, 25str wurms molt, 30str rings: koams, 10-20 str boots: lioneyes paws, 40-60 str+dex gloves: dashret's vise, 100str head: deidbell, 20-30 dex+str all attributes: amu: astramentis, 90-120 all carnage heart, 30-60 all belt: perandus blazon, 20-30 all ring: le heup of all, 10-20 all chest: deaths oath, 40-50 all helm: abyssus, 20-25 all overall: astramentis, 90-120 all headhunter, 44-50 str/dex OR magnate, 40-50 str 2x kaoms, 10-20 lioneyes paws, 40-60 str/dex deshrets vise, 100str deidbell, 20-30 str/dex deaths oath, 40-50 all 450 str max |
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So is pillar working with this build or not? seems awesome but too many different answers/information going around.
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" i tried it, but it` s too mediocre. you need to skill as much strength as possible, something like this: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAdwB5wJxBLMFLRLhFCAUTRRxGNsZLho4GlUb-iFVIWAkiyUnJd8n7SkuKaUt0jGeMgk1kjboOQ46szrYPC09D0CgQYdBqkd-Sn1KyE3jTipQR1W1Vw1YY1ivWfNbr11JYEthIWSjZU1m2WebZ6BsRm5pbqpybHKpdO108XgNeu98u3zZhNmE74d2iPGK5JBVkc6b7J65ns2fy6IApBmmV6cwp4SpaKluq8WsWayqr2y0-bXytz653b6nwBrBBMT2xYrGrsbY0iHUj9lh3D3dDeLq7DjvDvAf8i_z3fcy97746_zF_o8= with that tree (max points used) you get 692 strength; with decent gear you get add 200 str, so you have at end about 900 str. your phys weapon-dmg will be at the end: (24+40)/2 x 9 x 1,25 (maybe 1,45 depends on dex) = 360 (or 417) so, for spectral it isn`t really worth it; but for groundslam or infernal blow it can be used. ign: oberarmklaus Last edited by vorkasse#2346 on Nov 11, 2013, 1:01:53 PM
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Is this build viable? I currently have 300+ str but my tool tip on ST shows only 152 damage. The damage is significantly lower here. Should added physical damage be the deciding factor for making or breaking this staff??
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" the pillar only multiplies the physical weapon dmg and not the overall physical dmg itself. so contrary to facebreakers you don` t get a multi for all phys dmg, that you can have on rings, amus or somewhere else. sure, you can still play with the pillar but higher tear weapons with decent rolls will beat it. ign: oberarmklaus
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Tryed this build up with 100 astramentis, and ~200 str from gear, Get str from every single pice of gear!!! 852 str total, around 6k hp, all ress capped.
Dps on spectral with lmp is 3544. Double strike with multistrike does 20k.. still low, but sure its a good way to go untill 90's and then respec for regural spectral throw with 600 or 700 dps axe ;) Phys dmg nodes are not worth unless they give more than 16% phys dmg :P
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxtglJ1hjXUlQUGebjM8pLtSP9kgZLtE1ud1fPyft2WHvDvPdrKpXDXKpWfPSIZHOfNnAGp7Nu-2QVacwVbWnhAHn974UIBRxwQQaODboUEcOPNw97DhYrzpSZKOHKSFVOthGaXgNMn4aVTkOfLst0qluYSEki8WKbEa18uLqhO8S4a9s8B9ybG6qNZIB3HTtiuS0-QSzogAyCUrI_o-sWaQZeu-b7BRNAnFN44jxG_pgS6loplcl3wUtOuExnoTZ8kVlTW5p_gpHfr6nq8XSTcAP IGN: KaMaCyTpA Buying Quallity gems - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/167349 Last edited by KaMaCyTpA#3794 on Nov 11, 2013, 1:16:34 AM
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