Let me explain to people how easy it is to do a lottery scam.

so you know what? if they arent using twitch and this is what you think, I doubt they will have the same itemlevel of every item.... so as easy as pie just hover over the item in chat and CTRL+C then CTRL + V. the stats have to be the same, the i lvl has to be the same. its as easy as that.... ive seen more people start a twitch stream to only 6l something than not seeing people with a stream.... 90% of people realize if they dont have stream they will have to get one to make it work.... this is a hilarious thread. because noobody has 6-10 of the same item with the same exact stats.... if they wasted that many divines to get the same stats then obviously they dont need to scam.... its improbable and nearly impossible....

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

I recall a dev post from over a year ago stating that its about a 1 in 333 shot at hitting a 6L. So, yeah its rare enough to where you might hit it with one fusing, or you might spend 3000 fusings, but on average 1 in 333 is going to hold up on long term odds.

Judging on the odds, and the price for fusings to ex, 5 ex = 300 fusings, and 10ex would = 600. With 600 you're much more likely than not to hit a 6L.

and no.... there is no average. ive seen many people spend thousands... and by many i mean 50+ people..... ive seen the rare occasion where someone gets a 6 link in the less than 500 range. the 1/333 is wrong.

We need a list with people banned, or punished for breaking the terms of agreement, it's against the law and it's been in many games before, League of legends is doing something similar to. You shouldn't protect them, you should protect the rest of us by informing us.

If i know someone has scammed people before i would never trade or play with them , maybe do something like Max Payne 3 and toss them in cheaters league

You can't check the item level of an item that isn't in your inventory. So someone has no way to check the IL of an item you posted in chat. They have to take your word for it.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

I truly have difficulty believing people are this stupid.

Having done extensive research on Fusings in the past, the average cost of 6L can reasonably be expected to approximate 900 Fusing. That's what, somewhere in the neighborhood of 18 Exalt? I find it simply incredible that simultaneously some people would overvalue it at 30 while others would undervalue it at 10. Should be +20 Ex, period; the extra +2 is a "you didn't have to deal with potentially brutal RNG" fee.

Which is why, of course, a 10Ex lottery prize is such a smart idea: big enough to entice dumb people, small enough to represent a real savings to the lottery holder.

This is how traders are making money. They dont have to scam people in any way. All they have to do is get an unlinked shavs, 6 Link it and sell it and they make ~10ex every time. If the price was 10ex less they would have to cut into most of their profits to pull it off, and I am sure you can understand why they dont (Because people will buy it overpriced anyway)

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

I recall a dev post from over a year ago stating that its about a 1 in 333 shot at hitting a 6L.

You recall incorrectly; they revealed a precisely 1 in 306 chance of hitting 6 sockets with Jeweler's (more specifically, 100:90:80:30:5:1). That's why I compiled the results of over 115,000 Orbs of Fusing from the community; you should have clicked on my link.

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JuggaloScruffy wrote:

and no.... there is no average. ive seen many people spend thousands... and by many i mean 50+ people..... ive seen the rare occasion where someone gets a 6 link in the less than 500 range. the 1/333 is wrong.

Dude you got no idea what you're talking about. They program the odds of hitting a 6L, and it would be impossible to estimate it accurately unless everyone that ever got a 6L was tallied up into a pool of figures and analyzed.

A whole lot of people are also trolling, or greatly over-exaggerating when they claimed to have burned 3000+ fusings and no 6L. People frequently over-exaggerate butt-hurt by 10 fold, so for all we know they burned 300 and didn't get it.

A certain group wants people to believe a 6L is next to impossible, so they can proceed to gouge them for 20-30ex more for a 6L shavs.

And BTW, I 6L'd a Soul mantle with about 240 fusings. I didn't see 5L show up once.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

You can't check the item level of an item that isn't in your inventory. So someone has no way to check the IL of an item you posted in chat. They have to take your word for it.

lol yes. you can.
CTRL C+ CTRL v over any item in trade. it will pop up with every single stat it has--- color ockets i lvl, explicit and implicit mods. invite me in game and i will show you.
also, you negate the fact that the explicit mods on these items would have to be the same. the possibility of some have 6-10 of the same item such as ur example with 47/35 on the rolls is astronomical. pm me in game at
Scruffy_Scruffington , ill show you.

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JuggaloScruffy wrote:

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

You can't check the item level of an item that isn't in your inventory. So someone has no way to check the IL of an item you posted in chat. They have to take your word for it.

lol yes. you can.
CTRL C+ CTRL v over any item in trade. it will pop up with every single stat it has--- color ockets i lvl, explicit and implicit mods. invite me in game and i will show you.
also, you negate the fact that the explicit mods on these items would have to be the same. the possibility of some have 6-10 of the same item such as ur example with 47/35 on the rolls is astronomical. pm me in game at
Scruffy_Scruffington , ill show you.

Wow, so you're serious? I've been playing this game for a year, and nobody ever told me you could do that. Its definitely not common knowledge.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

the average cost of 6L can reasonably be expected to approximate 900 Fusing.

No, it's more than that in average according to GGG staff.

And by the way, OP is wrong how to scam people, with eternal orb is even easier than that.

never do lottery without streaming.

message me in game. ill show you. message me with a link of an item. it was in the patch notes quite a while ago.

you say this....
[quote]Dude you got no idea what you're talking about. They program the odds of hitting a 6L, and it would be impossible to estimate it accurately unless everyone that ever got a 6L was tallied up into a pool of figures and analyzed. [/quote]

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/203971
as scrotiMcB said....