Stop trying to sweep it under the rug.

What was the admin removed stuff

Was it the pic of arpgfan threating our families ?

Why off topic? These threads are more on topic than a lot of the threads on general discussion. And I'm not sure the fine folks at off topic will appreciate the thread dump.

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Inexium wrote:

What was the admin removed stuff

Was it the pic of arpgfan threating our families ?

I don't think it was.

But really I didn't see too much that was out of line in my thread. I think it spawned way more threads when locked because it was meant to be informational not judgmental.

It's somewhat irrelevant, but people who donated in that thread, and anyone really, probably were better served by seeing what actually happened, rather than rumor or having to create new posts for information.

Finally I have no idea how posting the link to the OP's thread is naming & shaming. Unless...

Can one shame themselves?

Apparently. :D

Edit: Oh, and thanks Rory for the explanation and the restore. Even though it's still locked I think I can live with it. :)

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RoryC_GGG wrote:

@Scrotie: See here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/514309

Some of the threads have been breaching 4 of those rules. It is important that somebody can come here and not be attacked or insulted, and that goes for any user.

I know, and knew, that those are the rules. But why are those the rules? Specifically, if someone does something horrible to people in-game and I have proof they did something horrible and I want to talk about how they did this horrible thing, why make a rule that prohibits that?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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RoryC_GGG wrote:

@Scrotie: See here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/514309

Some of the threads have been breaching 4 of those rules. It is important that somebody can come here and not be attacked or insulted, and that goes for any user.

I know, and knew, that those are the rules. But why are those the rules? Specifically, if someone does something horrible to people in-game and I have proof they did something horrible and I want to talk about how they did this horrible thing, why make a rule that prohibits that?

this conversation (on the forums) has already happened (and was concluded/understood if memory serves)... I'm pretty sure you were around at that point Scrotie... It's been a long day for me, but if I can pull up the thread(s) for you I will.

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Hulkcore wrote:

For clarity, a "mistake" is when you make a clearly bad decision and when people point it out, you say "Oh you're right, that's not what I should have done."

When you make a clearly bad decision and people point it out, if your response is "I didn't make a bad decision, leave me alone", that's not a mistake that's being an ass. Or a Republican politician. Which is to say, an ass.

/threads

Ha! This is actually the first time I have ever read these and I think a huge percentage of threads/posts could be closed under---

C) Antagonize others in an obnoxious manner
For example: comments that provoke hostile responses.

or

F) Disrupt forum use for others
For example: bumping threads more than once per hour, posting the same or similar content in multiple threads, derailing threads with off topic comments.

These to me seems so open to interpretation by their very nature that they cannot help but invite unintentional but clearly arbitrary discrimination in the application of their provisions. Perhaps clearer examples should be offered or maybe the guidelines need revisited?

Why not for instance just say.. it's prohibited to direct any comment towards another member which might defame, provoke, insult, or incite that member. (this rolls C & D into a single rule of course).

To me this sends a clearer message, if even the possibility is there that it breaks the rule.. don't do it.

I saw some threads mentioning some kind of controversy and only now found out about it...what an asshole of a person. That's all that can be said.

And GGG should ban people because of stuff like this as the community will go to shit if such individuals are left alone, and more so, 'protected' from being called out on the forums for their behavior and scams.

I didn't donate anything, nor do I particularly care about the ethics of the action, but the situation still caught my eye--because of GGG response which seemingly was off balance, and of course my personal midterm procrastination.


The mods reiterate that threads were locked because of derailment, except they ignore the occurrence when the original thread was preemptively locked at the request of the OP, who clearly at that point was about to be dumped on repeatedly by those who felt wronged and/or deceived.


Why was that thread prematurely locked? There was no derailment to that point. The OP engaged in an action that had consequences and was about to feel the wrath. Seems perfectly on point.


Within the next few hours multiple threads started popping up and were quickly, quickly locked. I read them, they were not all that name and shame. They were preemptively locked...it's that simple. Could they have become out of control and off color? Sure. I don't believe they were to that point. For whatever reason(s), the mod was hyper sensitive to protecting this person, or so it seemed.


I really didn't understand why. Was it because of the generous donation this person made? Possibly, but then again lots of people have given money.


Then you travel to Off-Topic and see the same person write a lighthearted and good-natured, but otherwise corny, poem to the mod...that was stickied and well-received by many. The circumstances are now a bit more clear given the timing/parties involved.


The whole situation screams of preferential treatment. That's unfortunate.


I understand it, GGG gets repeatedly crapped on for decisions made regarding the game and it must feel nice to receive legitimate support from time to time. But still, please don't direct any and all concerns or questions to a TOS thread that is highly opinionated (e.g. 'antagonize') and open to interpretation in light of what appears to be playing the favorite. It's unbecoming of a game most of us are interested in succeeding on a global scale.

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crabshack wrote:

I didn't donate anything, nor do I particularly care about the ethics of the action, but the situation still caught my eye--because of GGG response which seemingly was off balance, and of course my personal midterm procrastination.


The mods reiterate that threads were locked because of derailment, except they ignore the occurrence when the original thread was preemptively locked at the request of the OP, who clearly at that point was about to be dumped on repeatedly by those who felt wronged and/or deceived.


Why was that thread prematurely locked? There was no derailment to that point. The OP engaged in an action that had consequences and was about to feel the wrath. Seems perfectly on point.


Within the next few hours multiple threads started popping up and were quickly, quickly locked. I read them, they were not all that name and shame. They were preemptively locked...it's that simple. Could they have become out of control and off color? Sure. I don't believe they were to that point. For whatever reason(s), the mod was hyper sensitive to protecting this person, or so it seemed.


I really didn't understand why. Was it because of the generous donation this person made? Possibly, but then again lots of people have given money.


Then you travel to Off-Topic and see the same person write a lighthearted and good-natured, but otherwise corny, poem to the mod...that was stickied and well-received by many. The circumstances are now a bit more clear given the timing/parties involved.


The whole situation screams of preferential treatment. That's unfortunate.


I understand it, GGG gets repeatedly crapped on for decisions made regarding the game and it must feel nice to receive legitimate support from time to time. But still, please don't direct any and all concerns or questions to a TOS thread that is highly opinionated (e.g. 'antagonize') and open to interpretation in light of what appears to be playing the favorite. It's unbecoming of a game most of us are interested in succeeding on a global scale.

Best part is when they put someone in probation just because he summed all the threads in one place : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/543848
..
In Off-Topic!
Ofc locked.


Lock a thread in off topic..
Don't send you an email to tell you how much time you are in probation..
Don't leave any comment in the thread.. ( just lock it)


Would the result be different if i was an :

?