Another gunman shooting! We need stricter gun control laws!!!

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Velocireptile wrote:

Im going to put this in words that people on Forums will understand.

In real life, you can't just say "Civilian Class can not equip Semi-Automatic Weapons"

Well you can SAY that, but it wont be Coded into the game.

And if you do patch it in, well then people are just going to cheat and use Semi Automatic Weapons on their Civilian Character anyway if they want to go Player Kill and Grief others.

But now, all 'Good Players' that don't want to cheat, are unable to PvP against the PK'er with the Hacked Weapon.
So they are essentially just Critters to him.


You could try to delete the Folder containing the Semi-Automatic Weapon files. But then Gold Farmers will just find a way to import them into the Game and make a lot of money. The PKer knows this.

This wont deter the PK'er. He has decided that what he wants to do is Grief People and PK. Because he is no good at the Game, but he doesn't just want to go quietly into the night. He wants to make a lot of noise and have everyone talk about him as he Rage Quits Life.
It's similar to people Raging on the Forums about how bad PoE is.

So you see?

And you can TRY to argue against this with "oh but it WOULD do this"... but the facts are stacked against you.

Prohibition has never worked.
Mass shootings are planned and deliberate acts, not crimes of passion that could be avoided by a small speed bump on the way to a Gun Store.
Mass shootings are carried out with Illegally Obtained fire-arms already, making them double illegal wont really matter to these people.
Telling people "you cant defend yourself from criminals because guns are illegal... but yes we understand that criminals don't care and they will still use guns to harm you" will never go down well.

Peoples personal opinion of "Guns are bad, get rid of them all" are a mute point in this debate.
I agree, a WORLD without guns would be good. But that is not at all going to happen. Nothing remotely close to that will ever happen without Other Worldly Intervention.
Because as long as there are bad people, willing to do harm onto others... they will use the most efficient tools they can.

A side note, I live in Australia, I don't know the exact figure, but we have had mass shootings too, also with illegal firearms.

(Illegal Fire Arms = Guns that shouldn't actually be in the country)

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tramshed wrote:

Or maybe we should stop giving these fucktards thier five minutes of fame.

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bhavv wrote:

Hasn't anyone thought of the compromise of requiring a psych analysis before being allowed to buy a gun?

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Septile wrote:

It seems like nobody in this thread has actually talked to a police officer in the US or knows anything about criminal justice in the US, cause some people are painting it as if these mass murderers just take the gun out of their dresser and go on a rampage, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Guns are not as simple as movies and video games make them seem. The vast majority of guns confiscated by many police departments are defective in some way, the bullets are loaded in backwards, the wrong magazine, the wrong ammunition, it's jammed, or it's a gun that isn't capable of being fired even if everything else was set right.

These shootings are not crimes of passion, they don't happen simply because millions of Americans happen to own guns, accessibility of the gun isn't even a variable the shooter would consider. These are deliberate, calculated murder sprees with the intent of an insignificant person trying to make themselves significant. And it's an anomaly, it should be treated as such.

At least 80% of crimes in the US are committed under the influence of drugs or alcohol, with alcohol taking up the majority percentage by far. Should we ban alcohol? Oh wait, already tried that.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

Hasn't anyone thought of the compromise of requiring a psych analysis before being allowed to buy a gun?

More to the point, they should require psych analysis before letting people such as the perpetrator join the military.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

Can you now stop Americans having easy access to guns? That is the question.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

Can you now stop Americans having easy access to guns? That is the question.

No, it isn't.

The question is "Can you now stop members of the American military having easy access to guns?"
Because the fucker was in the military.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

Americas way of life is based on mass murder being ok, a vast section of the economy is based around the production of weapons, many millions of jobs, the entire country would go into economic collapse if it stopped taking part in mass murder. If mass murder stops being ok, America falls apart, literally. Given there is little real excuse for mass murder, the situation is that the entire country is run on the principal of mass murder being justified by bullshit.