Accuracy – The Last Remnant of Action?

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Slicer wrote:

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Mark_GGG wrote:

That's highly unlikely, since crit stuff is the Int attack modifier

This seems like a big problem, because not only do Witches get 100% hit rate, they also get lots of crits (I've noticed the +% to spell crit) and the dex tree doesn't. Balancing this seems difficult, if not impossible. The only thing not making it imbalanced in this build is that those +crit skills don't seem to do very much at all.

The thing is, depending on how it's balanced, it makes Dex make very little sense, unless the crits work differently than in other games. Is critical hit something that happens after the accuracy calculation, or do crits bypass evasion, and always auto-hit? If it's the latter, I expect people to do what Assassins did in Ragnarok Online and just pump their crit rating to the stratosphere, avoiding conventional accuracy entirely.

I hope you guys can juggle the numbers right for this to work, because if you don't, players will juggle them instead, and imbalanced builds will pop out of the woodwork...

Critical hits are affected by accuracy exactly like normal hits - once it's worked out that you actually hit it then determines whether that hit will be critical or not.

Each attribute has a main way to increase DPS on regular attacks. Str increases damage dealt - you hit harder, Int increases crits - you can see where the weak points are, Dex increases attack speed - you can move faster. All attributes can potentially get some access to any of these things, particularly if tied to certin weapons (e.g. Str gets attack speed as well as damage on Str weapons like maces).

When I was put to work on the previous passive skill tree working out what passives to include (and I think the new tree is mostly the same, with some new ones added in and redesigned to be much easier to navigate), All classes were supposed to have access to accuracy, but Dex ended up getting more because less of the stuff we wanted was in-game for Dex - we needed more dex passives and more accuracy seemed to at least make sense. So it got more of it. This may have pushed the balance to the point that accuracy was a problem for some classes, I'm not sure. So don't take my words as offical word of how things will be just because I have the yellow border.

Some of the design goals may have changed with regard to accuracy by this point - I don't know if dex getting more accuracy is something we're intending to keep or are happy with or not, but the dex way to increase DPS is increased attack speed, which makes sense for Dex, and the Int one is increased crit, which makes sense for Int. I can't speak for Chris or anyone else, but I don't think we're gonan be taking In't attack modifier and stapling it onto Dex instead.

If not enough accuracy is a problem, I think the solution is to make it more available to all classes, but I think there should always be some advantage to be gained by trying to max it.
In my personal opinion, accuracy should stay a part of the game , and it should be easy to keep it up as you level such that you're hitting most of the time, but you should miss often enough that investing in gear with +accuracy mods rewards you with at least some noticeable increase in effectiveness, to make up for not having whatever other mods you could have had on that gear.
And yes, there should be some monsters with high evasion which are quite hard to hit if you don't have some extra accuracy from somewhere.

I wouldn't personally be opposed to accuracy/evasion affecting skills - if it's done I think it would be good to have a separate spell accuracy so that you can have some base stuff affect accuracy with both weapons and spells, but also get gear which only increases one, to help encourage specialization - similar to how spell crit rating is done now. Needing to keep this up via gear I think would be one way t balance the fact that weapon-based characters need to keep improving their weapons to up DPS, where currently spell user's don't seem to to the same degree.
But I'm not a balancer, and I'm sure Chris has some things up his sleeve, and is much better than me at working out how to balance such things.