PoE Vs Diablo 3 new expansion

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SL4Y3R wrote:
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Wittgenstein wrote:
They never should have eliminated the community moderators.


agreed

oh, and starkables, heres your link http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7961416762

no paragon cap = every no lifer has exact same stats


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Well in theory it will probably be endless, but in practise I doubt it.
As you accumulate more and more Paragon levels, the experience required for the next level gets higher and higher. At some point the gain in levels is going to be so slow that it's practically non-existent. That's the glory of an exponential function :P

Paragon 2.0
- No paragon level caps
- Account wide paragon points
- All existing paragon experience for each account will be consolidated and paragon points will be given
- Paragon points can be spent on customising stats
- So far, 4 stats
- Core
Intelligence +5 [0/50].
Strength +5 [0/50].
Dexterity +5 [0/50].
Vitality +5 [0/50].
- Attack
Crit Chance +0.2% [0/50].
Crit Damage +1% [0/50].
Attack Speed +0.2% [0/50].
Cooldown Reduction +0.2% [0/50].
- Defense
Health % [0/50].
Resist All [0/50].
Armor [0/50].
Dodge % [0/50].
Block Chance % [0/50].
- Utility
Movement Speed [0/50].
Gold Pick-up Radius [0/50].

That are 750 Paragon Points

Therefor this statement is also false:

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Real_Wolf wrote:

If you made two barbarians. They would be the same.

Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 9, 2013, 6:57:49 AM
Jiminy cricket, why all the fuss?

I'll be buying the expansion, some of you won't. Nothing to prove or not prove. Don't need to hate Blizzard for the rest of my life either. Couldn't be fucked arguing about it anymore.

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mvm199 wrote:

i never said anything wrong about no lifers, learn to read or go back to school. enough about that. (i just meant comparing 2 ppl with enough time to max paragon points = all chars the same all over again)


edit: I know exactly what you meant. The issue you described is one that only a few people are likely to experience, I won't be one of them, so it doesn't influence my decision. I didn't say you were criticizing THEM. Enough with the "go back to school" nonsense already.

/later
Last edited by DijiGo#2281 on Sep 9, 2013, 7:00:09 AM
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SL4Y3R wrote:
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EternalEntity wrote:
I don't get how this should be in off topic, it is feedback, but whatever...


Feedback of the d3 expansion...


No, see the title of this thread. It is intended to compare PoE with D3 in the light of the new expansion.

Unfortunately people here want to bash D3 and so it is now mainly about D3 and also because fanboys cannot take criticism it often drift off into a dirty off topic discussion.

The thread was moved to off topic again without notifying me so I will contact support again asking to put it back where it should be and remove off topic post instead of moving the entire thread because people cannot stand pro D3 opinions or negative PoE feedback
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mvm199 wrote:
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Startkabels wrote:
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mvm199 wrote:
He's still bitching?

Anyway Startkabels I'd like you to come up with an intelligent reply to this (dont just copy paste what youve said before, put some thought into it)

Diablo 3 designers: 'We heard your complaints about character customisation so now we are giving you paragon points to spend on your character attributes. So you can build him how you exactly want and be different from the rest' (@ gamescom presentation)

In interview later adds: 'Yeah its endless paragon BUT every attribute is capped to say 50 points'

GREAT ... NO CAP ON PARAGON BUT CAP ON THE STATS THEMSELVES... FRIGGIN FANTASTIC ... Now every character who is a no lifer can again have the same attributes at endgame!!! WOOOO

''Hey my monk is different to yours mate ... you got 20 vit less cuz we are one level difference from completing all paragon stats! We are such amazing no lifers lolz''

Every1 running with 1000dex - 1000vit - 1000 int - 1000 str ... 10k armor ... 1000 res all ... 400k dps ... SAME legendaries (cuz after buff making legendaries just glorified rares who the fuck wanted rares anymore? they cant get the variance between uniques and rares right like poe does, or d2 did to a certain extent, do you ever see a poe character with full rares or full legendaries?)



An intelligent reply to those quotes without source is no reply..



hahahahaha i knew this was coming

lost for words arent you?

If you are such a big fan as you say, you wouldve followed the gamescome presentation where josh said that and the subsequent blue posts where they said the paragon isnt capped but the stats are. Heck, even I did. Funny how you dont know everything about the expansion all of a sudden.

But its fun to see you have nothing to retort with except 'not gonna answer cuz you got me there lolz'



Eh (hahahahaha) if you knew it was coming why didn't you give me the source?

I am not lost for words, like I said I am not going to reply to some external quotes especially not provided by you

I did not say I am a big fan, where did you read that? And also why do you think I know everything, it turns out to be you who seems to know everything (see above)

It is fun to debate with you, just too easy.
Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 9, 2013, 6:54:38 AM
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Startkabels wrote:

How so?

Paragon 2.0
- No paragon level caps
- Account wide paragon points
- All existing paragon experience for each account will be consolidated and paragon points will be given
- Paragon points can be spent on customising stats
- So far, 4 stats
- Core
Intelligence +5 [0/50].
Strength +5 [0/50].
Dexterity +5 [0/50].
Vitality +5 [0/50].
- Attack
Crit Chance +0.2% [0/50].
Crit Damage +1% [0/50].
Attack Speed +0.2% [0/50].
Cooldown Reduction +0.2% [0/50].
- Defense
Health % [0/50].
Resist All [0/50].
Armor [0/50].
Dodge % [0/50].
Block Chance % [0/50].
- Utility
Movement Speed [0/50].
Gold Pick-up Radius [0/50].



Tell me startkabels. If two different people get to the paragon level where they have enough points to 50/50 all those stats. What will be the difference between their barbarian other than the gear and the skills (which can be switched at any time)
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Last edited by Sneakypaw#3052 on Sep 9, 2013, 6:55:41 AM
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Sneakypaw wrote:
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Startkabels wrote:

How so?

Paragon 2.0
- No paragon level caps
- Account wide paragon points
- All existing paragon experience for each account will be consolidated and paragon points will be given
- Paragon points can be spent on customising stats
- So far, 4 stats
- Core
Intelligence +5 [0/50].
Strength +5 [0/50].
Dexterity +5 [0/50].
Vitality +5 [0/50].
- Attack
Crit Chance +0.2% [0/50].
Crit Damage +1% [0/50].
Attack Speed +0.2% [0/50].
Cooldown Reduction +0.2% [0/50].
- Defense
Health % [0/50].
Resist All [0/50].
Armor [0/50].
Dodge % [0/50].
Block Chance % [0/50].
- Utility
Movement Speed [0/50].
Gold Pick-up Radius [0/50].



Tell me startkabels. If two different people get to the paragon level where they have enough points to 50/50 all those stats. What will be the difference between their barbarian other than the gear and the skills (which can be switched at any time)


If? Do you know how long it takes to get 750 paragon points? Also you forget that increased % stats depend on gear
Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 9, 2013, 7:00:41 AM
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DijiGo wrote:
Jiminy cricket, why all the fuss?

I'll be buying the expansion, some of you won't. Nothing to prove or not prove. Don't need to hate Blizzard for the rest of my life either. Couldn't be fucked arguing about it anymore.

/later


You know, I don't care if you buy the expansion or not. Tastes are different and all that.
But you stated that you felt cheated by D3, but still would buy RoS because apparently you saw how much better it would be.

And this is just what I don't get. It's not about buying or not buying RoS. Or liking or disliking D3/RoS.
It's about Blizzard doing the same thing they did with D3, and people again falling for it.


And, by the way, you made the statement that your decision of buying RoS is based on evidence of things that have been shown to exist.
Sure you don't have to show that evidence. Just means you have no case to make if you don't.

Further, straw-manning "hating Blizzard for life" just makes it look like a nerve has been struck. Hey, I don't hate Blizzard for life. I just have developed a healthy mistrust towards a company that has repeatedly lied to its customers, me among them.

And I would genuinely like to know why others still trust them blindly. But I don't think I will find any honest answers here.
12/12/12 - the day Germany decided boys are not quite human.
Last edited by Avireyn#0756 on Sep 9, 2013, 6:59:55 AM
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Avireyn wrote:

It's about Blizzard doing the same thing they did with D3, and people again falling for it.
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Explain? Seems to me they are addressing complaints?
Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 9, 2013, 7:02:30 AM
Them attempting or acting like they are addressing complaints has nothing at all to do with what he said. Reread it.
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Startkabels wrote:
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Avireyn wrote:

It's about Blizzard doing the same thing they did with D3, and people again falling for it.
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Explain? Seems to me they are addressing complaints?


I've explained it a few posts earlier. Look it up :-). Or don't because I suspect you'll take any excuse to say "You can't!":

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Avireyn" wrote:

I mean, do you remember that awesome first (or one of the first at any rate) video demonstration how boss fights in D3 would play out? Where that group of Barbs fought the Siege Breaker in a cemetery and the SB had finishing moves like biting the Barb's head off?
Yeah, Blizzard said that this was how it was going to be.
Afterwards they admitted that nothing of this had actually worked, but was entirely scripted. To put it bluntly: They lied to their audience.


My point being: Blizzard changed the feature list of D3 so often and thoroughly (Enchantress, complete revamp of Rune system, PvP...), and lied about features being in while they were not and never going to be that it seems foolish to me to trust anything Blizzard says.

You say "They're addressing complaints", but how do you know that anything they say actually comes to pass? Because they said it?
What makes "And with RoS, we'll be putting the Enchantress back in" any more trustworthy than "And in D3, the bosses will be able to use finishing moves"?


edit: Or maybe you didn't get what I was trying to get across?
12/12/12 - the day Germany decided boys are not quite human.
Last edited by Avireyn#0756 on Sep 9, 2013, 7:21:15 AM

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