Voltaxix Rft -- Questionable New Ranger Unique Bow #2

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Faerindel wrote:
That 10% chance to shock + your crit chance is everything it has to shock. (remember, Static blows states "% shock chance on lightning damage. This bow makes sure you won't ever do any lightning damage)

Read them again, the passives got clarified, no longer explicitely mention lightning damage, and apply.
If immunity (from lightning damage) to elemental reflect is indeed the best stat in the game bar none, then the Voltaic Rift is the best bow.

I still believe that without using fire or cold damage, your damage is gimped compared to other archers, or you're trying to mitigate reflect traditionally (using ranged attack totems or partying), in which case you can do better than Voltaic Rift with a elethicket with much more attack speed.
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pneuma wrote:
If immunity (from lightning damage) to elemental reflect is indeed the best stat in the game bar none, then the Voltaic Rift is the best bow.

I still believe that without using fire or cold damage, your damage is gimped compared to other archers, or you're trying to mitigate reflect traditionally (using ranged attack totems or partying), in which case you can do better than Voltaic Rift with a elethicket with much more attack speed.

Removing that large quantity of lightning makes one capable of taping on some fire/cold accessories without having reflect be so murderous, but the affix slots are better used on additional life, resistances, or energy shield.

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I wonder if we'll ever see enemies with chaos innoculation. This bow is really going to suck in PvP, and CI enemies would make it very niche too.
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pneuma wrote:
If immunity (from lightning damage) to elemental reflect is indeed the best stat in the game bar none, then the Voltaic Rift is the best bow.

I still believe that without using fire or cold damage, your damage is gimped compared to other archers, or you're trying to mitigate reflect traditionally (using ranged attack totems or partying), in which case you can do better than Voltaic Rift with a elethicket with much more attack speed.


http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/507105/page/1

You can have lots of fire damage if you want. Cold not so much since hatred isn't used.
Leech + Regen takes care of everything for you. You can also controll your piercing and crit damage via your curses, so you can take down reflect enemies slower, but safely.
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Xendran wrote:
you can take down reflect enemies slower, but safely.

The same is true using using Lioneye's with a Puncture+CritChance/Multi+? 4L.
It can easily switch from converted physical to physical and back, especially if you can quickly switch the Blackgleam back and forth.

I totally agree with the strength of your build (which is true of any Shav's+BR and elecrit bow build, and curses are notoriously undervalued), but I can't for the life of me understand the fear that people have for reflect. Maybe I haven't hit the point where I do so many maps that they all turn into a haze yet, but I try very hard not to die to reflect and haven't died to reflect in months.

Lightning Thorns is much scarier, and it's as much a problem for this bow as for any other bow.

Voltaic Rift could use a slight damage nerf, but I don't feel like it's so out of line that it decimates all other bow options like Lioneye's does.

There is a lot of extremely safe strength in Voltaic Rift, Thunderfists, Wakes, and Wrath, though. The package is a little too nice and neat to be believable.
Thing is, if you manage your damage properly you can clear reflect packs at full speed. You really won't have very much fire damage, even on a critical weakness full pack crit, so it's rare that you ever have to actually slow down.

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Xendran wrote:
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RenoR wrote:
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Amiag wrote:
converted damage applies all the "increased" damage at once, you dont get to multiply



No, thats not true, I tested it.

Converted damage is "base damage" of the new element.

500 lighting damage times 50% increased lighting damage get converted to 750 base chaos damage. At least it works this way with other elemental damage conversion.(ice to fire, uniques)

Its some time ago since I tested it but I am 95% sure.


This is correct. This is why Iron Grip will increase your dps by a surprisingly large amount on a lioneye LA build using a 50% blackgleam.
No, this is not true, and never has been.

ALL increased damage modifiers are "increased" and thus additive.
If you do lightning damage converted to chaos, then it's affected by increases to both lightning damage and chaos damage, and those are additive with each other.

If you have 50% increased lightning damage, and 10% increased chaos damage, then you chaos damage that was converted from lightning is affected by both increases, which stack additively to 60%.
Last edited by Mark_GGG#0000 on Aug 25, 2013, 8:02:06 PM
Just think of it as: "X% increased Lightning Damage" gets converted to "X% increased Chaos Damage".


And so it stacks additively with other "X% increased Chaos Damage" you have.
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I think this bow is best with a life build and Life Gain on Hit. LGoH is instant and is a great counter to Lightning Thorns, and can even sustain attacks with Blood Magic if you decide to go that route. Meanwhile, the heavy hits from % reflected damage are almost entirely mitigated; you could still go Anger and all that other stuff and have LGoH cover it. Essentially, reducing your leech requirements so you don't need leech at all and can go LGoH instead essentially allows for a Vaal Pact style experience, but unfortunately it doesn't stop Lightning Thorns so you still need to plan for that.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Aug 25, 2013, 8:33:36 PM
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Mark_GGG wrote:
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Xendran wrote:
Iron Grip will increase your dps by a surprisingly large amount on a lioneye LA build using a 50% blackgleam.
No, this is not true, and never has been.


GGG Finally admits that Iron Grip sucks? :)

PS: Yes I know I quoted it out of context, but I couldn't resist!
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