Any one who feels like D3 will NEVER be good due to the lack of making builds?

I agree on this thread!
Big red hairy chookalooka.
yeah man! totally agree with this
I just figured out that Chris Wilson seems to agree with this.... He is judging D3 in beta here, but what he said turned out to be sooo damn true:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQGAvAgReZ8
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FireSkull wrote:

D3 has NO BUILDS.


That is just ignorance. D3 has builds, if you don't see that then you are quite stupid tbh. You can spec your character in tons of different ways, therefor there are lots of different builds.


And the "I've played D3 for x00 hours and it sucks" people, really? Don't you hear how silly that sounds?
Last edited by Sickness#1007 on Oct 6, 2012, 7:34:02 AM
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Sickness wrote:
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FireSkull wrote:

D3 has NO BUILDS.


That is just ignorance. D3 has builds, if you don't see that then you are quite stupid tbh. You can spec your character in tons of different ways, therefor there are lots of different builds.


And the "I've played D3 for x00 hours and it sucks" people, really? Don't you hear how silly that sounds?


The game does not have stat points or skill tree, so no there are no builds. You are casual if u think a build is to just set one of all the skills that you have into being the skills that you use... You dont build up your character around the skills, all characters are identical except for gear, even Chris Wilson knows this...

And spec ur character.... Wtf i dont even get what u mean by spec... explain please? or is spec just setting the skills and your runes in the piece of shit skilltree? If so, you dont understand how players created characters in Diablo 2.

Only thing that is not true about building up your character around a certain skill are items, who might have reduced mana cost or increased damage bonuses to a certain skill but... Items are horrible in D3, and while it is true that you can have items to boost a certain skill, you still dont have a skill tree, stat points, or any other real choices other than getting gear that boosts that skill... and even if u do that u can still just change you skills so u are still the same character as everybody else.... It was a good idea to have items that boosted a certain skill... but with the horrible skill tree and no stat points along with how weapons are allmost only about DPS, means that they certainly did not do enough...

Oh, and WHY THE FUCK is the wizard and witch doctor damage based around DAMAGE FROM THINGS LIKE SPEARS AND KNIVES?????? WTF??????? ITS JUST DOESNT EVEN FEEL LIKE PLAYING AS A CASTER/MAGE WHEN ITS THE FUCKING ITEM DAMAGE FROM FOREXAMPLE A 2 HANDED MACE WEAPONS THAT MAKES A ARCANE ORB DEAL MORE DAMAGE???????

ALSO WHY ARE THERE NO WAYS TO BOOST THE WITCH DOCTOR PETS OTHER THAN USING THE 3 PASSIVE SLOTS FOR SOMETHING LIKE ZOMBIE HANDLER? JUST... the idea with reserving 3 slots in that tree and just be able to change it again is even more stupid than the actual skill tree... So my so called "build" is just decided by.... Having 3 skill slots reserved... but i can change them if i just feel like it??? just wtf... If i want to make a fucking witch doctor summoner, i dont want to just reserve 3 retarded slots that i can change again anyway, i would want to turn my witch doctor into a build that was ALLWAYS summoner, and i would want unique items that were good for summoners, and i wanted a good currency and item system so that i could actually have fun when getting these items, and i would want a skill tree that is not fucking retarded/nooby like the skill tree in D3 is.

I swear alot... but that fucking helps me when i try to explain how retarded this bullcrap system REALLY is.
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FireSkull wrote:

The game does not have stat points or skill tree, so no there are no builds.


lol. You can have builds without stat points or skill tree. But you closeminded fools like you never seem to understand that.
The term "build" was not defined by how it worked in your favourite game.

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FireSkull wrote:

You are casual if u think a build is to just set one of all the skills that you have into being the skills that you use...


ROFL. A casual? As opposed to what,a hardcore ubergamer like you?
And what has that got to do with a build is, again?

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FireSkull wrote:

And spec ur character.... Wtf i dont even get what u mean by spec... explain please? or is spec just setting the skills and your runes in the piece of shit skilltree? If so, you dont understand how players created characters in Diablo 2.


Again, the D2 system is not the definition of build and spec.


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FireSkull wrote:

Oh, and WHY THE FUCK is the wizard and witch doctor damage based around DAMAGE FROM THINGS LIKE SPEARS AND KNIVES?????? WTF??????? ITS JUST DOESNT EVEN FEEL LIKE PLAYING AS A CASTER/MAGE WHEN ITS THE FUCKING ITEM DAMAGE FROM FOREXAMPLE A 2 HANDED MACE WEAPONS THAT MAKES A ARCANE ORB DEAL MORE DAMAGE???????


Why not? All kinds of items can give all kinds of bonuses that makes absolutely no sense in D2 aswell.
It's an extremely good system anyways IMO, much better balance between characters and skills. All are equally gear dependant etc.


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FireSkull wrote:

I swear alot... but that fucking helps me when i try to explain how retarded this bullcrap system REALLY is.


It's not retarded because you personally don't like it. Infact, I would rather say that it's retarded to even think that.

Your opinions are not universal facts, no matter how strongly you feel about it.
Last edited by Sickness#1007 on Oct 6, 2012, 9:22:04 PM
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Sickness wrote:
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FireSkull wrote:

The game does not have stat points or skill tree, so no there are no builds.


lol. You can have builds without stat points or skill tree. But you closeminded fools like you never seem to understand that.
The term "build" was not defined by how it worked in your favourite game.

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FireSkull wrote:

You are casual if u think a build is to just set one of all the skills that you have into being the skills that you use...


ROFL. A casual? As opposed to what,a hardcore ubergamer like you?
And what has that got to do with a build is, again?

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FireSkull wrote:

And spec ur character.... Wtf i dont even get what u mean by spec... explain please? or is spec just setting the skills and your runes in the piece of shit skilltree? If so, you dont understand how players created characters in Diablo 2.


Again, the D2 system is not the definition of build and spec.


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FireSkull wrote:

Oh, and WHY THE FUCK is the wizard and witch doctor damage based around DAMAGE FROM THINGS LIKE SPEARS AND KNIVES?????? WTF??????? ITS JUST DOESNT EVEN FEEL LIKE PLAYING AS A CASTER/MAGE WHEN ITS THE FUCKING ITEM DAMAGE FROM FOREXAMPLE A 2 HANDED MACE WEAPONS THAT MAKES A ARCANE ORB DEAL MORE DAMAGE???????


Why not? All kinds of items can give all kinds of bonuses that makes absolutely no sense in D2 aswell.
It's an extremely good system anyways IMO, much better balance between characters and skills. All are equally gear dependant etc.


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FireSkull wrote:

I swear alot... but that fucking helps me when i try to explain how retarded this bullcrap system REALLY is.


It's not retarded because you personally don't like it. Infact, I would rather say that it's retarded to even think that.

Your opinions are not universal facts, no matter how strongly you feel about it.


You are wrong about pretty much everything. Builds in D3 should not have been more simple and shittier than in D1, but casual players dont get that. And no i dont think myself as a hardcore gamer, i think myself as a true diablo fan and not a wow fan. And the D2 system did builds much better than in D3, if u dont think that please fucking explain me why u think the bullcrap system in D3 is better.

And the thing with witch doctors and wizard... OH come on just shut up..... A caster should not get more spell damage by using a 2 handed mace, its fucking retarded, casters should get damage from skill tree, items with spell damage/+ to skills like in D2. If u cant see how fucking retarded it is to have a Wizard who uses a Two Handed Mace as wand, then you are truly casual, and the only reason u like it is that its more simple for noobs to understand... And again this is yet another step down from Diablo 1, where the damage was decided by the skill books.

ALLRIGHT... Maybe u could say that a build should not necessarily be like the system from D2... BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SYSTEM SHOULD GET TURNED INTO COMPLETE CRAP!!!.... And again... u can just change ur shit whenever u feel like it... Which means that the replay value is fucking horrible and gives a hugeeeeeeeeeeeeee lack compared to the things that were fun in D2.

ALLRIGHT, MY OPINION IS NOT HOW EVERYBODY FEELS, BUT IT IS HOW REAL DIABLO FANS FEEL, AND PLEASE EXPLAIN ME HOW THE SYSTEM IN D3 IS BETTER... I KNOW U CANT DO THAT, BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS WORSE THAN D1..... This is a fucking FACT, not a opinion.
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

Play with that for a while, the ncome back and think about what you just said.
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Sickness wrote:


i loled :D


i have pretty hard feelings about D3 and all the stuff that went about concerning Blizzard North (R.I.P.)...

But PoE seems to wipe that all away - in a way thats even better than Bli$$ard just adding to their millions: some indie studio will kick their asses - BOING!!!

like someone on the youtube video above already commented: looks like it takes a wilson to kick a wilson =P
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Sickness wrote:
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

Play with that for a while, the ncome back and think about what you just said.


At least that game is better than D3...
And like i said, apparently u cant explain why u "think" that the system in D3 is better.... Instead u just post that game as some kind of excuse...

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