Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!

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x2P wrote:

The tooltip DPS for cyclone is not accurate. My 14k Cyclone DPS kills piety much faster than my 60k Dual Strike.

Op also mentioned this on Page 96.

Edited: Oh, here he comes. :P

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x2P wrote:

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whoismiked wrote:

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Rozerozz wrote:

Dual Strike is great mid-game, but you should later change it to gain more defense(Both from Leech and Mobility).

Question: I can totally see the defensive & mobility benefits of cyclone over DS. But how do feel feel about the damage comparison. Cyclone has a much lower tooltip DPS that DS does, but many people feel that cyclone is in fact doing more damage and the tooltip is misleading.

Do you feel this way?

Honest questions here as I have preferred DS up until this point (I'm 87 in HC and can do 77 maps pretty easily, but I am considering switching to cyclone.

They just fixed the tooltip DPS for cyclone. It is higher than DS tooltip now. Even if the damages were equal with the adjusted tooltips, cyclone still does more it feels like. The best part about cyclone is by far the ability to abuse Life on Hit.

It gives you the instant healing you see in vaal pact builds without downsides.

Good to know, thanks! <3

Are u really just too stupid to read my posts and then u just flame ? I dont discuss your whatever build i , atleast i try but u cant read obv, discuss the blender build.
I was always writing about 75+ maps, that i did, and my posts pretty much reflect the outcome i had.
Whatever u have no clue what iam talking about, whatever the other guy writes hes probably also not reading my posts.

I dont run around with saffels all the time, and i dont always do -max res maps but,like i already wrote, do u really want to reroll a 100+ quant map just cuz your build sucks for hard hitting spell dmg ? Iam no pro by any means, but i guess u just dont understand the game as good as i do. I guess u just dont see that u have like 60% spell Block with saffels + 5 max res. Without the spell block all that max res wouldnt even matter much. I also use saffels for residence or crematorium without - max res cuz the bosses will one shot u anyways with the 214% max life u have with the blender guide.

U dont have to be able to face tank everything. You just cant tank a vaal smash in a Maze map if theres monster/boss/vulnerability etc dmg, safely. But we all know that we desync with Cyclone all the time and i dont wanna get one shot while desyncing. Cant even count the times a vaal smash killed me when i was like 100 meters away, or a touch of god for that matter.

As for Cyclone : get LoH in there, be invincible. Rly the oly thing that can kill u, DW or not, is spell dmg. I never dropped below 80% health even with +monster dmg, vulnerability, +extra whatever dmg in 75 + maps.
Phys dmg wont even touch u and if it does u will just insta LoH back to full. Thats why 1h + shield is far superior :D

Problem with Cyclone is insane mana cost. Also how does Cyclone compare to DS using a BoR? I have 4% LL from gear which is enough with DS. If I were to use LoH with Cyclone I would be dropping a damage support (probably added fire). Will the clear speed still be as fast?

I dont know how much dmg u do, but i guess it should work pretty well.

I think if u wanna do higher level maps 73+ cyclone with LoH is far superior considering your survivability.

I guess some bosses like jungle valley are pretty hard for you without a LoH cyclone.

If u have the builds 5.4% life reg and some chaos res, u can just use blood rage all day long if u use LoH cyclone. This way u will get 3 frenzy charges and LL ontop of the LoH. I guess for harder maps use cyclone for easy maps DS works just fine.

If u have to use blood magic the dps will suffer quiet a bit. With blood magic u must rly be aware of desync and killing yourself with cyclone, but it should work anyways. Best thing is to just try it u dont even need other colors in your bringer.

LL on gear is pretty meh for survivability btw, cuz u cant increase the LL rate. LoH is far better in every scenario with cyclone.

I just started using this build and it looks great. But i got 1 question i see you got blood rage but i never see you use in in ur vids. When do you use blood rage?

You need some chaos res and u can run blood rage all the time, since u have insane life reg anyways. Only half or no regen maps are not the best place to use it, depends on yur chaos res.

Hey guys. I saw a lot of people asking about Wings of Entropy, if they are viable. So i have some data.

Inb4 sorry for my english.



As you can see, DPS on my weapons kinda mediocre. So i got average rolled Wings for test.

My current build

Build i used for Wings

I tried to keep life at same level (198% -> 184%). Tree for wings is not the best, but i had no currency to respec extra 20 points back and forth. I think perfect for same amount of points would be like this. With 2 extra points you can pick Amplify for your Cyclone.

Difference between those builds:
My build -> Test build -> Perfect build
Life 198%(+72hp) -> 184%(+62hp) -> 202%(+62hp)
Attack speed 72% -> 71% -> 71%
Total phys damage 232% -> 285% -> 315%

That means numbers below not perfect and they can be much higher.

Skills and links i used:
Cyclone, LGoH, Added Fire Damage (WED/BM)
Dual Strike, Multistrike, Melee Splash (Added Fire Damage/BM)
+ BoR gems.
Gems in brackets was swapped to show dps difference between BM and mana/soul taker versions.

Cyclone + Dual Wielding:
13834(WED)
11332.6(BM)

Cyclone + Wings:
14270.2(WED)
11675.5(BM)

Dual Strike + Dual Wielding:
28484(Added Fire Damage)
22258(BM)

Dual Strike + Wings:
29158.2(Added Fire Damage)
22910(BM)

So, as you can see, Wings are pretty much viable. They aren't perfect, but they have some advantages:
Cheap
Extra 5/6link (Even 4link is good. Run Cyclone for crowd, use DS for single target)
FUKKEN HUGE AOE FOR CYCLONE (9 for 2hand axe + 2 from Master of the Arena + 20% from q and 12% from Amplify = win)
Blood Reaper skin transfer looks kickass with Cyclone.
Extra Block% and Spell Block! Combine it with Rainbowstrides and Stone of Lazhwar to get amazing endgame spell protection.
In builds that i've suggested US just 2 points away, if you aren't running Cyclone.

Only thing i forgot to test is the difference between 12% phys nodes vs 6% phys + 2% as for Wings.

So, thats it. RIP 50 regrets.


UPDATE: Since You can have 6link with Wings, you can switch BoR to Kaom's Heart + any helm (even Abyssus!). For end-game maps or hardcore leagues this is insanely good.
You can easily run Stone of Lazhwar + Rainbowstrides and still have max res and high hp pool.
Your dps should be really nice since all your gems can be q20 lvl20.
Also, with high hp you can run BM Concentrated Effect Cyclone for extra dps.

ehm, thanks, but why u take 2H nodes AND DW Nodes? does they both count for entropy?

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Hyron wrote:

ehm, thanks, but why u take 2H nodes AND DW Nodes? does they both count for entropy?

It says on the item "Counts as Dual Wielding"