Kripp banned from GW2

Hell, I really had no interest in gw2. But after reading about this maybe its time I took a second look.......

I still can't believe ANet banned, permanently, people who bought swords for 20 karma. I mean, these players didn't 'trick' the vendor or the code into selling them the sword for that price. They just saw it there, placed there by the devs, thought it was a good deal, and then got banned! 60 or 80 dollars down the drain! I mean, how do people know if something is a 'good deal' or an 'exploit' in this case?

This one really boggles me. The more I think about it, the more it sickens me. I mean, if I were playing the game, if I saw a cheap item, I wouldn't know anymore, if buying it meant PERMABAN. I couldn't play like that.

There's no way I'm putting any money into that company. That has nothing to do with Kripp, but I'm sure glad Kripp brought this to everyone's attention.

It's pretty clear that they don't have the tools to roll back accounts and that they did intend on banning accounts, but the backlash from the playerbase was too great to maintain their stance... so they backed off to what amounts to no punishment at all... a 72 hour suspension.

As far as the above question of when a player should know if it's an exploit... they won't always if the case is borderline. I personally don't know the dynamics of the rest of the karma system and what is and what is not common knowledge of what is obtainable and what is not... but if this was far and away a massively better deal than anything else they'd ever encountered, they should have asked Support for clarification.

So the answer is: A player should know when the difference between what you are doing now and close alternatives is extremely large.

I was actually considering buying the game, I won't do that now. Just too lame a company banning for that.

well, ANet also suspended around 700 accounts for botting for 72 hours...

botting gets 72 hours, buying shit from vendor gets perma banned lol

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piscator123 wrote:

well, ANet also suspended around 700 accounts for botting for 72 hours...

botting gets 72 hours, buying shit from vendor gets perma banned lol

They have somewhat backed down from their ridiculous stance and they are giving the banned players a chance to take a 3 day ban instead of a permanent ban if the players promise to remove anything they had recieved illegitimately from the exploits and they have promised to look the players over the shoulder so if the players do not honour their end of the deal it will result in a perm-ban.

I think a huge part of the blame should be on Anets own tab. If I understand it correctly and it is vendor-prices creating an unintended way of gaining an advantage, I cannot see the players using those design-flaws to their advantage, having to pay such a heavy price. Had it been item duping as in Diablo 1, botting and several hardcoded cheatcodes or third-party game-alterations I am all for a first-time permaban and no redemption. I think that Anet needs more graduated responses to cheating, including a warning for smaller naming-issues and roll-back capabilities (I am very surprised by the seeming lack of such a system. I thought it was more or less a golden standard among programmers to have a backup so severe ruining of code does not break the game completely). Anyway, it seems that Anet has released the game before they have balanced the classes or founnd these severe valuation errors in vendor-prices and far worse: Before they have got the technology needed in the engine to be able to support the game properly. I am not saying things have to be perfect by release, but this release has been worse than the medium-bad things in Diablo 3.

The only streams I have ever personally seen with this guy has been involving some exploit or "gray area" or another. he is making a career out of it, and I do not fault a developer for not wanting it to set the trend in their brand new economy.

Them(ANet) putting it on parade with such bravado was pretty silly, almost as silly as streaming exploits (which is as silly as something like video taping shooting paintballs from a moving car and making it public, leading to your arrest or something else dumb but fairly harmless and entertaining to watch)

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anubite wrote:

Facts are facts: Kripp is advertising their game for them for nothing. They owe him.

They don't owe him anything, he owes them, he gets viewers/money off the back of their product, GW2 (nor D3 for that matter) needed the feeble amount of publicity Kripp brings to their products, you could add all the viewers on Twitch in week an dit would come to less than a failed sitcom that gets cancelled for low ratings gets.

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Zurgs wrote:

the feeble amount of publicity Kripp brings to their products, you could add all the viewers on Twitch in week and it would come to less than a failed sitcom that gets cancelled for low ratings gets.

That's like saying Path of Exile is a shitty game, because it does not have the player count of Diablo III. Kripp is just Kripp. He's not an entire sitcom studio.

I don't understand the hate Kripp gets.

He didn't do the 21 Karma thing at all. He was under a 72 hour ban at that time. Somehow he got banned for using Karma to craft food which he sold to a vendor for gold.

So he got banned for paying the correct price in Karma to get items to craft food. Then he sold the food for the correct price to a vendor.


Anyways, I won't be buying GW2 mostly because I didn't enjoy it during BWE 3. However, it was looking like they were having a lot of fun playing and I almost bought the game. Then the bans came down. No way in hell I support them.

Once PoE goes into Open Beta, I will be back playing it full time. In the mean-time I'm actually making progress in D3 and selling gold in RMAH.

I'm an old guy(45) and finally made ACT 3 in D3. Maybe that means I suck at video games, but progressing is fun. In PoE I can progress so I will move here when Open Beta starts and leave the RMAH behind.....