{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

I really want to try out my first summoner in end game content. Is this build or the auramancer type build better suited for end game content with cheaper gear?
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Fishplayspoe wrote:
Could you run a dying sun for the insane aoe + proj and drop GMP?


Keep in mind golems won't have the benefits of the belt but if yur playing just spectre yeah it definitely works.

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Nephilium wrote:
Most of the time when I do die it's not slowly. It's just a one shot and I'm finished. I'm running at about 6.5k ES I think.... and about 10k when I pop vaal dis. I pop Haste and VD as much as I can during fights/breaches. I use Flesh Offering, and pop my pots a lot to to keep the sustain for my minions and the conc groud for my ES regen.


If your getting oneshotted you just need to add more es. Try buying a 400+es shield those should be around 10c or less. Victario is a nice dps boost but if you feel like you need the added defense use a es shield.

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Jemaro wrote:
Quick Question, what Offensive unique do you personally prefer? I currently have severed in sleep and a clayshaper and scourge has become dirt cheap so im trying to figure out which one to keep.


Severed in sleep is only really good with physical/chaos damage dealing minions. Try scourge + clayshaper for the fire version.

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Runal wrote:

I really want to try out my first summoner in end game content. Is this build or the auramancer type build better suited for end game content with cheaper gear?

Without adding golem jewels and the flasks the build should easily do up to t15. After that point you need to invest more in defense and offense to take down guardians and shaper. Auramancer is more defensive for your minions triple purities adds a lot of mitigation your character won't have as high of a ehp pool since your stuck using a shavs.
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Last edited by mattc3303 on Jan 10, 2017, 9:54:59 AM
Sorry if this has been asked bevor, but i couldnt find it and thread is kinda long ;)

Is splitting focus to golems and spectres worth it? Or wouldnt you just be better of going full golem, or full spectres?

What i dont like about full golem, is that there is no really good ascendeny. Most points feel kinda wasted. With this approach at least this problem would been fixed.
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Mathorg wrote:

Sorry if this has been asked bevor, but i couldnt find it and thread is kinda long ;)

Is splitting focus to golems and spectres worth it? Or wouldnt you just be better of going full golem, or full spectres?

What i dont like about full golem, is that there is no really good ascendeny. Most points feel kinda wasted. With this approach at least this problem would been fixed.


Your losing a 40% more multiplier in exchange for adding an equivalent of 2-4 extra "spectre". That is a damage improvement.
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Would it be best to go with Victarios with United dream or united with clayshaper or does it really matter?
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I have a few mechanics questions and I can't really find it.

I'm wondering what I should be looking to do to improve my character right now, as I've amassed a bit of currency.

I'm using the anima stone and one clayshaper, with an es shield and no umbilicus for added survivability.

Is it better to drop the clayshaper and get a united in dream? One less golem but I'd be getting the poison and the envy aura which will make spectres and flame golems apply poison (I think? These spellcasting spectres can't apply poison otherwise right?).

Is the poison damage from these spectres even worth it since it's only a % of the chaos damage from the envy aura?

Is it better to move away from the fire spell casting spectres and use the slasher miscreation for more poison damage? If so I'd be losing on the synergy with flame golems since slasher miscreations don't make use of the gmp gem nor would flame golems do a lot of poison damage.

What's the way forward here? Do I just give in and start using the umbilicus?
Last edited by Silverpion on Jan 10, 2017, 8:33:02 PM
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mattc3303 wrote:


Severed in sleep is only really good with physical/chaos damage dealing minions. Try scourge + clayshaper for the fire version.



So no victarios charity for the fire version? I thought that would be the best option for offhanding. Anyways thanks a lot!
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For These which offhanding option is the best questions


It is honestly really hard to tell what is better. For victario it is hard to have all your charges up during boss fights so this shield is just really good for clear speed(Frenzy charges).

Severed/scourge is prob the best for physical based spectre

Clayshaper/option here if you want to focus more on golems

dual scourge will prob give the highest damage boost. 140% additional minion damage is a lot to add since we don't have that many sources of increased minion damage.

For the best balanced option definitely going pick a wep/high es shield. This will help you push your es pool to an acceptable level for endgame content. This is probably the option I am going to use.

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Silverpion wrote:

What's the way forward here? Do I just give in and start using the umbilicus?

Looking at your character profile your shield and amulet slot could use the biggest upgrade. A 400+es shield should only be around 10c. Amulet should have 30str and flat es/%es.

United in dream synergises the best with physical spectre unless your using the umbilicus belt then you can poison with the atziri promise.

Definitely start buying some 20/20 gems for your chest slot. Every small upgrade there impacts all your damage dealing minions.
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mattc3303 wrote:
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Silverpion wrote:

What's the way forward here? Do I just give in and start using the umbilicus?

Looking at your character profile your shield and amulet slot could use the biggest upgrade. A 400+es shield should only be around 10c. Amulet should have 30str and flat es/%es.

United in dream synergises the best with physical spectre unless your using the umbilicus belt then you can poison with the atziri promise.

Definitely start buying some 20/20 gems for your chest slot. Every small upgrade there impacts all your damage dealing minions.


Thank you for answering. I have a 20q flame golem leveling on secondary along with some other gems, but I bought a 20q minion damage now. I upgraded those slots you said and am now sitting at 8k es, now I just need to buy a 6L vaal regalia.

In that case, are my golems and spectres done scaling once I've 20/20'd all the gems? Not that they're doing low damage, they're really good but I was looking forward to further upgrade them which was why I was looking into the united in dream.
Couple more ways to scale is higher level spectre, level 21 flame golem. Some T16 Fire-eaters has enough damage to down shaper and guardians and that is without umbilicus and flask scaling.
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