Will the energy shield node nerfs destroy my Righteous Fire build?

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Dreggon wrote:
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Chalcon wrote:
Anyone could see that kaom and RF shavronnes are ridiculously overpowered. Deleting kaoms and nerfing shavronnes+rf builds is very good for the game imo.

So funny to see all the people jumping in to defend their faceroll build and the best argument they can come up with is basically "its expensive"...

You could spend 100000000000000000000000 exalts on regular gear and have a perfectly rolled wand etc and still not even come close to these dps numbers without shavronnes.

If I had... uhh, that many exalts... then yeah, I definitely agree I couldn't come close to those DPS numbers. My DPS would be so ridiculously high that, like you said, the damage of a Shavronne's + RF build would be less than half of what I could get with my super-expensive set of rares.

Why do you think expense is not an obstacle? That's literally how life works. If I had ten billion dollars I would live in a mansion. If I had ~15 exalts I would buy a Shavronne's. I do not have either of these things, because I cannot afford them. If you could afford them, would you make use of them? Would you start up one of these 'overpowered' builds?

With resources comes power. Having a small budget is always going to give you lesser results than a higher budget. I don't understand why you think differently, or why you don't think this is OK. It's not fair, but see my real life example above.


Expense is not to be factored in the overpoweredness of an item, shav is only that expensive cause its by far the best armor to use in combo with low life and RF, if it was not that good it would not be 25ex for a plain one.

In other words, kaom and shav are the 2 most costly items because they are simply OP.

Also anyone with enough time (months) can muster up exalted orbs for those high end items, game will last for years so by balancing op combos they are doing the game a favour in the long run.
Last edited by ResidentHippy#2399 on Jun 3, 2013, 5:41:23 AM
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Astarte911 wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
Its OP as fuck with shavs and it has no downsides, chaos damage pff you can get chaos resistance gear.. es regen delay, you use life leech anyway, you use chayula for stun, frags for freeze or just flasks if you dont have frags, and hundreds of ES per sec regen...

The only downside is that its expensive

Only thing i read here is: Blabla, i have no idea what i'm talking about.


chaos damage pff you can get chaos resistance gear
-Chaos Res gear is sooo cheap right ?
es regen delay, you use life leech anyway
-Ghost Reaver is pretty much on the right side (near shadow tree), while you have to go to templartree for ES/AR nodes + Regen and Maurauder Tree for more regen.
you use chayula for stun, frags for freeze
-Chayula and Dreamfrag's cost arround 6 Suffixes, 6 Prefixes. Thats not a disadvantage, at all eh ?
Its OP as fuck with shavs
- The only OP thing is with Shav's. But people who can effort Shav's played allready long time and they pretty much deserve the DMG Boost. BTW.: Shavs removes basically only one downside.

Only thing you are crying about is that ppl, which played far longer then others, can make better builds.
Your last statement, currency wise, is not valid too. I made a RF Arc Witch with less then 20 Ex. Without Shavs, DF and Chayula. And 20 Ex can be farmed easily in less then 2 month. But you need a well thought passive tree + some very special gear parts.


lol you have 2 months, go farm 20 ex for me...

20 ex in 2 months is super achievable...
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NemoSushi wrote:
20 ex in 2 months is super achievable...


It really depends how many hours per day you can invest into the game.
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R.I.P. Righteous Fire

2% elemental equilibrium + 4 purity + 8 Rise of the Phoenix + 75 base = 89
ALL LIFE NODES AND VITALITY = 8.9 life regen per second.

That unique created by some diamond who liked Righteous Fire is now absolutely fucking useless junk. Righteous fire will permanently be unsustainable.

Not only that, but life node nerfs, and life nerf in general.

As hard as it was to amass 12k hp, that only yielded 6kdps from RF due to 50% max life damage to minions (while 100% to yourself, always silly)

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tl;dr: GGG just to an absolutely massive dump on anyone who used Righteous Fire in any way.

Keep on truckin'!
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NemoSushi wrote:
20 ex in 2 months is super achievable...


not with a real life

lets assume you have 3h a day to play

you farm 10 fusing in 3 h thats 40 jewlery thats 80 alts

yes iam talking about hc not standard league where you can stack max mf iiqiir i like to get some exp when i play

you play 5 days = 50 fusing
50 fusing x 8 weeks = 400 fusing /70(current hc exalt price)= 5,7ex

with your 20 ex in mind i have to tripple my playtime to achieve the 20ex

9h a day ? healthy ? real life ? i dont think so
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Last edited by ventiman#1405 on Jun 3, 2013, 3:46:28 PM
Ive 120/120 (rounded, it doesnt fit 100%) iiq/iir with a 5 link chest. 1 Ring 15/20, 1 ring 8 10. IIR/IIQ Gems with max level in that chest (+Arc +Faster Cast +Light Penetration). 15 iir helm, 15 iiq boots, 10 from the unique belt (cost 2 chaos), 25 from sadimas (cost 1 alch)

If iam Farming docks (Optimistic):
1 run 0.5 chaos. Full Docks clean < 6 minutes -> 5 chaos/h
4 hours a day -> 20 chaos
2 Month -> 60 adys -> 1200 Chaos -> 40 Ex..


Lets be more pessimistic:
1 run 0.25 chaos. Full docks clean 8 minutes. -> ~1,75 chaos/h
4 hours a day -> ~5chaos
2 Month -> 40 days -> 200 Chaos -> ~7 Exhalts

~7 Exhalts. Without any other drops, just pure junk selling, 6S, few currency drops, while 0,25 Chaos are arround 0.5 Fusings, 2 Jewelers, 4 Alts...

You posted a VERY pessimistic value there..

OT: Not quite sure, how much numbers they'll calculate, but 18% from 4max res would be overall 4,72 (purity + 18% from inner force) so you would be still at 90%. 90% is still 10% life degen per second (+ inner force).. but its still a huge amount..


E1: Im a hardcore Witch with lvl 87.
E2: With my iiq/iir i went up to lv70 maps.
E3: Fixed the amount of days.
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Last edited by Astarte911#6271 on Jun 3, 2013, 4:23:29 PM
If you farmed 3h a day for 2 months, even if zero currency dropped, most players on average will find some very valuable items worth multiple exalts. Currency drops alone are only a small part of income.
20 chaos in 4h do i really need to reply on shit like that ?

so annoying my numbers were at least realistic not some fantasy shit pulled out of my hat

so you make 40 ex in 2 month 5ex a week every casual gamer will tell you thats bullshit but hey....

good for you

seriously.......
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