Will the energy shield node nerfs destroy my Righteous Fire build?

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silverthorne wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
Its OP as fuck with shavs and it has no downsides, chaos damage pff you can get chaos resistance gear.. es regen delay, you use life leech anyway, you use chayula for stun, frags for freeze or just flasks if you dont have frags, and hundreds of ES per sec regen...

The only downside is that its expensive


Wow, such a nice butthurt.
Also, i think you've not ever played RF build.




heres a video of me playing a RF shav build: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnIPD9PXfh8


You people do realize the game needs balance, just because you are doing a build that is OP as hell you shouldnt be defending it like its your most prized possestion, you need to think of the balance of the game, is it not OP that one can have 9kES and do 8k+ DPS on dual totems with a shavronnes and RF? It is and you know it.
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Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Jun 2, 2013, 11:46:33 AM
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VictorDoom wrote:
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Astarte911 wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
Its OP as fuck with shavs and it has no downsides, chaos damage pff you can get chaos resistance gear.. es regen delay, you use life leech anyway, you use chayula for stun, frags for freeze or just flasks if you dont have frags, and hundreds of ES per sec regen...

The only downside is that its expensive

Only thing i read here is: Blabla, i have no idea what i'm talking about.


chaos damage pff you can get chaos resistance gear
-Chaos Res gear is sooo cheap right ?
es regen delay, you use life leech anyway
-Ghost Reaver is pretty much on the right side (near shadow tree), while you have to go to templartree for ES/AR nodes + Regen and Maurauder Tree for more regen.
you use chayula for stun, frags for freeze
-Chayula and Dreamfrag's cost arround 6 Suffixes, 6 Prefixes. Thats not a disadvantage, at all eh ?
Its OP as fuck with shavs
- The only OP thing is with Shav's. But people who can effort Shav's played allready long time and they pretty much deserve the DMG Boost. BTW.: Shavs removes basically only one downside.

Only thing you are crying about is that ppl, which played far longer then others, can make better builds.
Your last statement, currency wise, is not valid too. I made a RF Arc Witch with less then 20 Ex. Without Shavs, DF and Chayula. And 20 Ex can be farmed easily in less then 2 month. But you need a well thought passive tree + some very special gear parts.


I said its Op with shavs i have no idea what the fuck are you on about telling my how it is with non shavs, i didnt say anything about RF non shav.

Pretty sure i know what im talking about since i ran a RF shavs build for a while.
Dont be a smartass.


Ok. Im with you and the Shav's thing. Shav pretty much broke it. I considered you points in a non-Shav build and there they are nonsense.



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You forgot maps with: Vulnerability, -50%/-100% regeneration, Elemental Weakness, -15% allres mods.
Yes, Ele Weakness can be countered with +50% fire over-res and others can be countered by wearing Springleaf as main shield, but ES pool downfall is huge in this situation.


Vulnerability can be played with Reju-Totem. But its annyoing. Since im using Rising Phoenix and have over 130 Fireress, ele weakness isnt a problem too.

You can add to unplayable: Blood Magic. -Allress = no go, same for all Regen Maps. (For my high life non-shav build)
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Last edited by Astarte911#6271 on Jun 2, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
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uhh accusing one of the topladder player from closed beta that he has clue about game mechanics


*popcorntime*


We were talking about 2 different things. For shavs, he is right. For every non-shav build he is wrong.
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Astarte911 wrote:
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uhh accusing one of the topladder player from closed beta that he has clue about game mechanics


*popcorntime*


We were talking about 2 different things. For shavs, he is right. For every non-shav build he is wrong.


That is because i did not refer to ANY non shav build, i posted specifically on RF+shavs, i have no idea why you thought i was talking about the non shavs builds when i said that its op with shavs in the first sentence..

Non shavronnes RF builds are fine, they are not easy to do, they require a lot of twinking and a lot of specific mods on gear, and they do not have as much es and dps as shavs, they are not OP.
Nor is the classic Life+RF marauder.
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Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Jun 2, 2013, 11:42:47 AM
Opener posted more in a gernal note, i thought you might just crying about RF in general. Ignored the fact that you talked about shav only, somehow. My fault.

On a side node, the only OP thing i see is that ppl could buy currency from RMT and make this build. If this wouldnt happen/possible, i would be totally fine with Shav's/RF. If i play a certain amount of time more then the average guy is doing, then i want a decent advantage in build, set and dmg-wise. Thats why im fine with shav's build. It's like in the job. If i work more i will have more then others. We aren't in a comunism here.

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Last edited by Astarte911#6271 on Jun 2, 2013, 11:59:13 AM
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Astarte911 wrote:
Opener posted more in a gernal note, i thought you might just crying about RF in general. Ignored the fact that you talked about shav only, somehow. My fault.

On a side node, the only OP thing i see is that ppl could buy currency from RMT and make this build. If this wouldnt happen/possible, i would be totally fine with Shav's/RF. If i play a certain amount of time more then the average guy is doing, then i want a decent advantage in build, set and dmg-wise. Thats why im fine with shav's build. It's like in the job. If i work more i will have more then others. We aren't in a comunism here.



99% of all other builds could spend twice as much exalted on gear as the RF build and they would still not be close to RF FP Shavronne dps, so yeah.
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The main thing that is broken is spark totems. Shav + RF is still risky other builds.
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unkempt wrote:
The main thing that is broken is spark totems. Shav + RF is still risky other builds.


No. It's not.
Well, the whole forum knows by now you're the perfect Path of Exile player and there are no risky builds for you, so I can see why you would think that.
^Okay, what extra risk is there over a CI build? There is no extra risk, just less ES and having to get some chaos resist, in return, you get twice as much damage. CI has the same problems with stun, status ailiments, no regen aside from ZO and GR. What the hell is balanced about just being less tanky and getting 100% more damage? Can you do that with nodes? I doubt that.

Spork totems are not the OP thing here, RF is just as OP with EK and FP.

edit: I'm not even counting PA.
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