You assume I care at all if you respond back or even read it. If I have something to say then I will.
If your message is to GGG only then send a PM or an e-mail.
You asked me direct questions in your post which I skimmed. :| And as I said, that's fine, if you wish to say something, you may. I just wanted you to know I wouldn't be reading it if you cared, which I assumed you did since you asked direct questions.
My message matters for everyone. If they see my reasoning and agree with it, they could change their mind or at least understand why I say what I do. Their input on what I say won't change much for me as everything I say is based on things about me or GGG, and not anything else.
They're free to give input on what I say, but as I said to you, I want them to realize it won't change much for me.
These so-called "hardcore" ffa-lovers have put in quite a show lately with their butthurt feelings now that the dev team naturally decided to add loot-options, its just hilarious ;)
I mean, can they be more pathetic? I guess so!
Just read the first guy post, tenswoards, he is trying to blackmail ggg financially with that 1k that he put behind;
And the second, treamorLace dude, he is trying to blackmail ggg emotionally ;) just read his long and totally utter crap ramblings, its really hard to believe until you read it!
And the third, whodu, he is just rambling non-sense like a totally derailed individual.
You guys are all beyond pathetic, can't you see it? it's crystal clear dudes, open your eyes and get yourself out of this shameful situation that you put yourself in!
Lol, and they call themselves "hardcore" players ;) yeah, right, comedy at its best ;)
At least props to slayer who was really happy he could now play pure ffa and accept the dev's decision ... and didn't go to the shithole that these three got in ;)
You guys are finding new limits and new boundaries of being pathetic.
Last edited by mobutu#5362 on Apr 24, 2013, 7:50:58 AM
I'm glad you are still reading guys (GGG). This is a direct message to you, in this thread, as it pertains to loot. Semi-long.
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Personally, I have no argument to give, only my feelings regarding the knowledge that loot options are coming (via development manifesto). Which has everything to do with this thread.
Simply put, I feel you (GGG) have buckled to something that goes against what you wanted to do with the game. Chris himself says you guys are ninjas. You love FFA. Krip Q&A from last year when this question came up if you are wondering where he said this.
On the Overview page, this is what it says,
"Path of Exile is an online Action RPG set in the dark fantasy world of Wraeclast. We're a small independent team of hardcore gamers based in New Zealand and have created Path of Exile as the game that we'd want to play ourselves. It is designed around a strong barter-based online item economy, deep character customisation, competitive PvP and ladder races. The game is completely free and will never be "pay to win". Path of Exile is currently in Open Beta!"
Now, while it doesn't mention loot, it does mention that you want to make a game you yourselves want to play. Yet, you are betraying this by offering loot options.
When it comes to this game, I recently read a post that made the most amazing observation I've seen:
"When will everyone realize that this game wasn't made for the majority. It was made for the minority." Paraphrased, but it's what was said.
I back this statement up with what you yourselves said. You are hardcore players and are making the game you would want to play. This means there is no game for you to play that's like this. And this shows that a game like this is not wanted by a majority of players because if it were, it would likely be monopolized by now and exist.
As you also said, this game was made for the hardcore. Hardcore is minority as well. I'm not going to bother defining hardcore, as it's unnecessary for this post.
I've said all this to try and have other people (and you) understand my position in saying what I'm about to say. Context, if you will.
If I were to want to buy something from you (I do), it would be because, A. I want whatever I buy, and B. I want to support you.
B is more important. Far more important to me, explicitly. However, I have less of a reason to support you now. Essentially, this is what I'm thinking:
"I want to throw money at them, because I like what they are making. However, this shows if they are pushed enough by enough people, they will betray their vision. The thing I want to see be real. The very reason I will give them my money. So, why give it to them, if I can't be certain it will be used as I had hoped it would."
I understand that you will alienate someone by making this hard decision. Whether it be many people with FFA, or few people like me with options, but a choice must be made.
The thing is that I feel like I should be the one who isn't alienated because I consider myself to be your target audience. I am a hardcore player. I love everything about this game that makes it difficult, challenging, complex, etc etc. I spend as much time as I can afford playing it. I'm not very good, but I don't think that factors into this.
That's my view on it, and pretty much how I feel about it. I'd rather loot options not be in the game, or at the very least, be separated entirely by League so I would never be affected by it in Hardcore (or Cut Throat, when it's here).
I may be in the minority, but that actually should be a good thing for this. And I'm feeling like it's not, which is the problem.
If you read all of it (and I'm fairly certain you will), thank you. I hope to be following the Path of the Exile for years to come, but I don't know if I should bother if I can't trust you to do what you say you want to do.
pathetic attempt. it doesn't even mention loot. stop trying to play this card.
real FFA will finally be here, and so will another option. anyone who can complain right now is warped.
thank you so much ggg, being able to play zero timer ffa that isnt forced upon me is what im most excited about. thats real "hardcore"
You assume I care at all if you respond back or even read it. If I have something to say then I will.
If your message is to GGG only then send a PM or an e-mail.
You asked me direct questions in your post which I skimmed. :| And as I said, that's fine, if you wish to say something, you may. I just wanted you to know I wouldn't be reading it if you cared, which I assumed you did since you asked direct questions.
My message matters for everyone. If they see my reasoning and agree with it, they could change their mind or at least understand why I say what I do. Their input on what I say won't change much for me as everything I say is based on things about me or GGG, and not anything else.
They're free to give input on what I say, but as I said to you, I want them to realize it won't change much for me.
I wouldn't dream of changing you. Just giving the counter opinion as I have done a long time in this thread. I didn't really think you would answer my questions. Consider them rhetorical.
You admit that your post was a message to everyone so it wasn't only a message to GGG.
I wouldn't dream of changing you. Just giving the counter opinion as I have done a long time in this thread. I didn't really think you would answer my questions. Consider them rhetorical.
You admit that your post was a message to everyone so it wasn't only a message to GGG.
You seem to be trying to get me to be "wrong" about something.
I explicitly said that the message was directed at GGG. I didn't say it was explicitly and only for them.
I can direct a Freezing pulse at one mob and let others be caught in it's wake/clipped by it's edges.