Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

It is not best solution.

Sorry.

That is your opinion. I don't see why you try to pass it off like fact.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Sometimes, you won't get what you want, sometimes you will. Even having this as an option hurts the meta game.

I don't see how anyone can prove this. The meta game is obviously hurt right now with so much of the player base playing single player only or mostly single player.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Also, just because many people who prefer Instanced don't know this. You are aware you will get less loot with an instanced option compared to solo. If all you care about is loot, you will get less in an instanced setting.

An infinite timer in my opinion is essentially an instanced system and I don't see how that would be less loot. But even if it is I would much prefer to play on that.

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SMRD wrote:

Please do not take away players freedom to decide on their own how to behave. It’s one of the best things thing game has going for it.

Freedom of choice would be there with more options. There is less freedom right now. Either people put up with FFA in one way or another or they play solo. I don't see a lot of freedom there and apparently neither do the other players who are now asking for something else.

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akete wrote:

With 1000-2000 acounts online I just see perhaps max 2-3 public parties on the noticeboard. I wonder what is dicouraging players to group up...

^ This

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iamstryker wrote:

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SMRD wrote:

Please do not take away players freedom to decide on their own how to behave. It’s one of the best things thing game has going for it.

Freedom of choice would be there with more options. There is less freedom right now. Either people put up with FFA in one way or another or they play solo. I don't see a lot of freedom there and apparently neither do the other players who are now asking for something else.

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akete wrote:

With 1000-2000 acounts online I just see perhaps max 2-3 public parties on the noticeboard. I wonder what is dicouraging players to group up...

^ This

Thread about this already. And if I'm not mistaken.FFA didn't even make the top 3

#1 reason people don’t play co-op is because of Pace. The Pace is set by the loot system. So the #1 reason that people don’t play co-op is because FFA increase Pace to a point that they would rather play solo.

Lol

Edit: I suggest you read the thread.

Pace: I've got kids to take care of off/on, I like to explore. I need a smoke break. Etc

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wrathmar wrote:

#1 reason people don’t play co-op is because of Pace. The Pace is set by the loot system. So the #1 reason that people don’t play co-op is because FFA increase Pace to a point that they would rather play solo.

QFT.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Lol

Edit: I suggest you read the thread.

Pace: I've got kids to take care of off/on, I like to explore. I need a smoke break. Etc

Pace: People are killing things, grabbing loot and running off too fast.

You left the most vital aspects of pace out. The actual in game pace.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Pace: I've got kids to take care of off/on, I like to explore. I need a smoke break. Etc

Smoking is the reason I don't group. I don't want to put anyone through the misery of having to stop what they're doing every 30 mins for me to enjoy my nicotine habits :)

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wrathmar wrote:

**Results**
Updated 11/12/12 16:00 est

Option 1 – 5
Option 2 – 6
Option 3 – 4
Option 4 – 0
Option 5 – 32
Option 6 - 5
Option 7 - 7

(mix of FFA + 3 + 5) - 1

Here are the results of the group loot poll thread. Option 1 is keeping the current system and option 6 is for full FFA. 10 players total voted for those and that's out of 60 players. Option 7 chose not to vote. So out of that portion of players the vast majority would prefer a different looting option to play on.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Thread about this already. And if I'm not mistaken.FFA didn't even make the top 3

If you are referring to my 'Why Don't You Party?' thread then I think you have your numbers mixed up.

Just went through it, from 9 pages the results are:

Don't party cos of FFA loot = 40

Don't party due to pace = 11

Other (mostly life issues or just like to solo) = 17

I suggest you read the thread.

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lethal_papercut wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Thread about this already. And if I'm not mistaken.FFA didn't even make the top 3

If you are referring to my 'Why Don't You Party?' thread then I think you have your numbers mixed up.

Just went through it, from 9 pages the results are:

Don't party cos of FFA loot = 40

Don't party due to pace = 11

Other (mostly life issues or just like to solo) = 17

I suggest you read the thread.

I would prefer a thead that gives clear answers like "Would you party more with a different looting option besides FFA?" That way it could be more easily tallied.

Your thread tended to have people babble and even not really answer the question. I went through and tried to fairly count the people who legitimately cited FFA as the reason or one of the reasons they don't party and I came up with 28 people. With only 9 pages of that thread I consider 28 to be a lot. So ya I agree that Slayer might not want to point to that thread. It doesn't support the view that most people are fine with FFA.