Game has huge flaws, developers making bizarre choices

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johnKeys wrote:

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Chris wrote:

Some secret awesomeness that I'm not able to reveal just yet. It's bigger than the other changes in the patch

does that mean what I think it means (Scepter Of God, and Dominus)?

I assumed it to mean:

"Four new unique items have been added, along with several new affixes for rare items that are designed to help certain builds involving ______ [insert niche build here]"

There are some good points. I don't know why was Kaom removed for being OP yet put back later... problem is, once you put an 'easy button', you start tuning the content to be challenging with the 'easy button'. Whatever is 'mandatory' as a stat, or an item, should be either given or not exist at all.

And it's not jsut HP. The whole 'game is tuned for you to have capped resists' crap too. IMO resists should have diminishing returns, not be flat %, that would allow difficulty increase through the levels other than dumb 'oh lets add -60% penalty coz d2 did that'. It should be a choice, do I want to buff further resists, or do I want higher hp, or armor, or something else? Not 'you have to run 75/80/purity or you're dead to lightning spam'.

Shav's is pretty much build enabling, while it has 'side effects'... I'm not too sure about the new ring and gloves tbh but with my luck i'll never get to test them anyway LOL so I'll constrain myself from commenting.

As for 'new mods'... do we really need a new set of mods for 'force increase gamma/brightness'? That's a freaking fluff, put a bloody checkbox to disable it, problem solved! It's just stupid. But so are 10 other mods that noone wants and don't add anything but annoyance when you're trying to craft. Why is 10 damage reflected or 5 mana on kill still there? Light helps 'someone' that helps noone at all.

/end rant

I was going to write a big wall of text but TBH many people have already said most of what i want to much better than i.

The honest true as sad as it is, is game has been ruined.

The crafting system (gambling)
The just pitifully handled uniques (10 OP rest useless)
The constant nerfs to all power, (skills and passives)
The drop rate nerfs
The total lack of any real character progression
Forcing trading with no trade system
The redit situation

The list gets bigger and bigger i think most of us are at point now where we would quit
but we have so much vested in the game it hard to give up hope that MAYBE they will
pull it back from the brink.

Its such a shame.

Like in raging bull this game could have been a contender it could have been somebody.

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maxor wrote:

The honest true as sad as it is, is game has been ruined.

Ruined? Because it was somehow amazing and perfect before? The game is a work in progress. Only so many issues can be solved per patch, and when you introduce new content you're going to create additional problems that require more feedback and changes.

It is a process. But the game has steadily gotten better and better since I started playing in 2011. It will continue to get better.

Just because all your wildest dreams didn't come true immediately doesn't mean the game is ruined.

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maxor wrote:

The honest true as sad as it is, is game has been ruined.

I don't see how what you have written below equals the game being "ruined" which suggests that it cannot recover.

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The crafting system (gambling)

I can't think of any big changes since OB so how has it been ruined? Also they are obviously making changes just like in the next big patch so I don't really see your point.

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The just pitifully handled uniques (10 OP rest useless)

This is hyperbole. I have my own feedback on the uniques but saying their useless is just exaggerating. For example you probably lumped the amulet stone of laz in with the useless uniques and yet this amulet is extremely good for block builds. I do think uniques as a whole are a bit unbalanced but I still like them a lot more than other games (like that other game...), at least their unique and not just glorified rares.

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The constant nerfs to all power, (skills and passives)

Going to need examples here. GGG seems to buff as much as they nerf. Like the recent buffs in the last patch to skills and those two mana passives.

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The drop rate nerfs

Not sure what your referring to, A lot of uniques were buffed recently.

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The total lack of any real character progression

Again I feel this is hyperbole. I think character progression is pretty good and will continue to improve as the beta progresses.

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Forcing trading with no trade system

As far as I know this isn't the finished trading. This and everything else so far does not ruin the game, it just needs to be improved.

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The redit situation

How does this ruin the game again?

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iamstryker wrote:

I can't think of any big changes since OB so how has it been ruined? Also they are obviously making changes just like in the next big patch so I don't really see your point.

In CB, the game was a hell of a lot less gear dependent, so your results from crafting didn't need to be as "perfect" back then as they need to be now (like currently, you are basically forced to cap resists to progress in the later stages), in CB, you didn't need capped resists, nor did you need extortionate amounts of life

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HopTortoise wrote:

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Mark_GGG wrote:

I'd like to point out that both those mods have been requested multiple times by different players since closed beta started, and several players have posted saying the like the new mods.

So I thought about this for a while...

I simply do not believe you.

There is certainly a COMPLETE lack of honesty surrounding the intentions of your company here, regarding stuff like this.

Good grief. If you really dislike the game this much and also lack trust for the developers themselves why are you still here? I don't think anyone should subject themselves to an experience that they do not enjoy.

GG on calling the devs liars though. I'm sure the game will turn out just how you want it now..

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deteego wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

I can't think of any big changes since OB so how has it been ruined? Also they are obviously making changes just like in the next big patch so I don't really see your point.

In CB, the game was a hell of a lot less gear dependent, so your results from crafting didn't need to be as "perfect" back then as they need to be now (like currently, you are basically forced to cap resists to progress in the later stages), in CB, you didn't need capped resists, nor did you need extortionate amounts of life

I am aware of that. I was referring to crafting specifically hasn't really changed since OB so I am not sure why he thinks it has been "ruined". But my main point is that nothing he said is unfixable. The game is not ruined, its just not done.

That's what happens in hardcore. Every player calls out scrubs on defaulters untill his char dies to desync or thorns, reflect snakes with speed or something like that. Then he flips. Nothing new. There are ofc some hardcores that are truly hardcore and shrug it off.

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iamstryker wrote:

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HopTortoise wrote:

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Mark_GGG wrote:

I'd like to point out that both those mods have been requested multiple times by different players since closed beta started, and several players have posted saying the like the new mods.

So I thought about this for a while...

I simply do not believe you.

There is certainly a COMPLETE lack of honesty surrounding the intentions of your company here, regarding stuff like this.

Good grief. If you really dislike the game this much and also lack trust for the developers themselves why are you still here? I don't think anyone should subject themselves to an experience that they do not enjoy.

GG on calling the devs liars though. I'm sure the game will turn out just how you want it now..

I had to google around to find it. No truthful statements regarding this was posted on the forum.

"It's for light radius builds" is, in fact, a lie. It is for no such thing. As you can read above, the new affixes were specifically put in to make rare items shittier and more watered down.

Or basically to paraphrase Mark: "Several people enjoy having the rare items of the game get watered down with awful bullshit."

I love watered down items.

Also, you act like I played the game to subject myself to torture. Of course not. I played it for fun and because I thought it would be a good game to play on the long term. I did not anticipate GGG being the kind of company who would add fluff to their game in this manner, and then lie about it.