The whole idea behind the so called “crafting system” in this game is wrong-headed.

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Martinezz123 wrote:
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29 levels with same weapon and im 88.

That's WRONG.

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Around 100 chaos in ilvl79

An how did you get that much. Were you collecting them?
I haven't seen more than about 10-15 chaos orbs and I'm lvl 40.
So I assume the drop rates for them rise unduly for higher level maps and are too low for lower ones - and that's WRONG too.
Getting to 40 level is enough time of play to be in need of drawing rares for ages with no ability to do so.
That's WRONG too.

This only means that not only the mechanics are bad but also the balance.


And even with huge amount of orbs the current system would not be lacking the "slap in the face" component.
It's intrinsic mechanics are punishing.


No.
Hes using a wand. The top mods are ~15% higher (combined) and 3% cast speed. There isn't that much room for improvement on a good level 59 wand. But anyway, carry on with your over-reaction.
If my wand was a sword/bow it would be worth 2chaos.

But yeah 15000 possibles affixes on wands i guess. System punish wand/staves/dagger/sceptres users way too much
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Martinezz123 wrote:

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Around 100 chaos in ilvl79

An how did you get that much. Were you collecting them?
I haven't seen more than about 10-15 chaos orbs and I'm lvl 40.
So I assume the drop rates for them rise unduly for higher level maps and are too low for lower ones - and that's WRONG too.
Getting to 40 level is enough time of play to be in need of drawing rares for ages with no ability to do so.
That's WRONG too.

How do you get Chaos orbs? You trade for them of course. Even without that, by your account you've seen over 10 Chaos orbs, and you've only reached level 40. That's hardly what I'd call poverty.

What's WRONG is your presumption that when things don't meet your expectations, it must be WRONG. This topic is a prime example.
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sanleon wrote:
If my wand was a sword/bow it would be worth 2chaos.

But yeah 15000 possibles affixes on wands i guess. System punish wand/staves/dagger/sceptres users way too much


Link the wand. Exaggerating is fun.

I'm talking about the marginal increase in level 79 mods vs level 58 mods

Incanter's 58 Spell Damage +% 60 to 69
Glyphic 79 Spell Damage +% 70 to 74

5% higher more for the top tier...

Theres very little room for improvement on a good 59 wand, so saying you've not upgraded in 29 levels isn't quite realistic for wands.

Elemental weapon mods are the same, which im assuming Martinez is using. The attack speed is the most important attribute anyway in those cases as most damage is from other gear.

I'll say the same retarded thing about my level 6x-ish LS shadow, I've used the same weapons since level 1. Yes, really. Doesn't really mean a damn thing or prove things are broken... Its just a good soundbite/troll bait.
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indczn wrote:
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sanleon wrote:
If my wand was a sword/bow it would be worth 2chaos.

But yeah 15000 possibles affixes on wands i guess. System punish wand/staves/dagger/sceptres users way too much


Link the wand. Exaggerating is fun.

I'm talking about the marginal increase in level 79 mods vs level 58 mods

Incanter's 58 Spell Damage +% 60 to 69
Glyphic 79 Spell Damage +% 70 to 74

5% higher more for the top tier...

Theres very little room for improvement on a good 59 wand, so saying you've not upgraded in 29 levels isn't quite realistic for wands.

Elemental weapon mods are the same, which im assuming Martinez is using. The attack speed is the most important attribute anyway in those cases as most damage is from other gear.

I'll say the same retarded thing about my level 6x-ish LS shadow, I've used the same weapons since level 1. Yes, really. Doesn't really mean a damn thing or prove things are broken... Its just a good soundbite/troll bait.

If you've really used the same weapons since level 1, you should link those weapons just so I can marvel at what kind of gear you're happy with that's available from the very first moment you fall in to twilight strand.
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indczn wrote:
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sanleon wrote:
If my wand was a sword/bow it would be worth 2chaos.

But yeah 15000 possibles affixes on wands i guess. System punish wand/staves/dagger/sceptres users way too much


Link the wand. Exaggerating is fun.

I'm talking about the marginal increase in level 79 mods vs level 58 mods

Incanter's 58 Spell Damage +% 60 to 69
Glyphic 79 Spell Damage +% 70 to 74

5% higher more for the top tier...

Theres very little room for improvement on a good 59 wand, so saying you've not upgraded in 29 levels isn't quite realistic for wands.

Elemental weapon mods are the same, which im assuming Martinez is using. The attack speed is the most important attribute anyway in those cases as most damage is from other gear.

I'll say the same retarded thing about my level 6x-ish LS shadow, I've used the same weapons since level 1. Yes, really. Doesn't really mean a damn thing or prove things are broken... Its just a good soundbite/troll bait.

If you've really used the same weapons since level 1, you should link those weapons just so I can marvel at what kind of gear you're happy with that's available from the very first moment you fall in to twilight strand.




Shouldn't have been too hard to guess, given theres one level 1 melee unique.
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indczn wrote:
Shouldn't have been too hard to guess, given theres one level 1 melee unique.


If I couldn't craft/reroll/gamble/find an item that is better than a lvl 1 unique (niche or not) by the time I hit lvl 60, I would think there is something wrong with the item progression in the game.
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2ofSpades wrote:
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indczn wrote:
Shouldn't have been too hard to guess, given theres one level 1 melee unique.


If I couldn't craft/reroll/gamble/find an item that is better than a lvl 1 unique (niche or not) by the time I hit lvl 60, I would think there is something wrong with the item progression in the game.


Are you really suggesting that you want more gear check/forced farming?
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indczn wrote:
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2ofSpades wrote:
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indczn wrote:
Shouldn't have been too hard to guess, given theres one level 1 melee unique.


If I couldn't craft/reroll/gamble/find an item that is better than a lvl 1 unique (niche or not) by the time I hit lvl 60, I would think there is something wrong with the item progression in the game.


Are you really suggesting that you want more gear check/forced farming?


If my endgame build consisted of lvl 1 items, I would find that rather disappointing.

Even if it were a niche build like a low-life build, I would expect that other low-life uniques would be available at a higher level that would be more beneficial to its build.
Last edited by 2ofSpades#4172 on May 2, 2013, 6:58:56 PM
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How do you get Chaos orbs? You trade for them of course

It's a joke.
You haven't taken the prices under account.
I've traded for them too.
I got about four of them and about two alchemy ones for all my other orbs.
So don't play a smart ass.

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