Transfigured gems in SSF

Agree with OP that the current farming of transfigured gems is BS. And spare me that "this is SSF" shit. Skill gems are the backbone of builds, unlike all other loots in game. There's a good reason why unlike most other loots, you're able to buy 99% of skill gems from vendors.

My suggestion is to change the weightage of getting transfigured version of that same gem, say for example when you put a gem in, it must have much higher chance to become its own transfigured version compared to other random gem of the same color. For example there's 50% to get the same gem but transfigured, and 50% to get another random transfigured gem of the same color.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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ArtCrusade wrote:
and even if it was the old system with alternative quality gems in Heist you'd have to farm for a long time to find your specific gem.
"This other thing that was removed is also bad in the same way" is entirely consistent with the idea that the current system should change.

I just reject the premise of balancing around SSF


As if they are balancing around trade. Magebloods are basically free.
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elmelopinky wrote:


As if they are balancing around trade. Magebloods are basically free.


sadly they are balancing around sc trade, which makes no sense because as you said, trade is so OP its basically not balancable.
And then we end up with uniques that have 1% drop chance on a endgame boss that already requires a lot of farming just for the boss itself and tons of other things effectively not farmable in ssf.
All the "you chose to play SSF" boys can shut up, OP is 100% right. Lab sucks, and doing 100s of it to get your gems is toxic.
this (and many other) posts are the reason why GGG did not want to introduce SSF as an official thing

'we want hard, brutal, grindy challenge. give us!' almost always comes with 'but it is too hard! make it easier' few moments latter

people who want to play SSF because they do not want to interact with other people - just dont list any tabs public and NOONE EVER will bother you

people who want to play SSF for challenge - you got what youve asked, you can always migrate to trade

getting gems is not instant but if you actually want to get them, it is nothing compared with other grinds that lie ahead
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sidtherat wrote:
this (and many other) posts are the reason why GGG did not want to introduce SSF as an official thing

'we want hard, brutal, grindy challenge. give us!' almost always comes with 'but it is too hard! make it easier' few moments latter

people who want to play SSF because they do not want to interact with other people - just dont list any tabs public and NOONE EVER will bother you

people who want to play SSF for challenge - you got what youve asked, you can always migrate to trade

getting gems is not instant but if you actually want to get them, it is nothing compared with other grinds that lie ahead


The problem is that the gems are the core part of the game. It's literally the very skill a player wants to use. Having them slightly gated isn't bad. You get some during acts, then eventually have access to any via Lily.
Lab gems atm are not only blocking access to said skill gem via RNG, they block even the attempt to try out a skill. Not to mention they want to keep adding more and more of them in the future which dilutes the pool even more.
I don't think it would be an issue if you'd simply add the option to transmute the very gem one wishes to play.
Lab itself is unrewarding and boring af. Even on trade there are some gems ppl don't even sell since nobody wants to run that crap.
The only "gate" with lab is the time necessary to run consecutive labs. Way better than hoping to find a gem blueprint
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Transfigured gem acquisition is bad in SSF and trade.

It is just a bad use of a decent idea.

100% they are going to change it one day, because it blows.
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elmelopinky wrote:

Lab itself is unrewarding and boring af. Even on trade there are some gems ppl don't even sell since nobody wants to run that crap.


but there are plenty of gems that sell and sell quickly. strong demand, low supply - good money to be made.

trans gems are NOT essential. basic version works 'ok' for a while until you farm the desired trans gem. this is SSF after all so most of your gear is barely usable at this point. and you are level 40 or 50. so no need to complain that you havent yet received Penance brand of busted damage. regular brand AT THIS point plays pretty much the same

people that play SSF should be accustomed to grind and 'smart grind' - like grinding normal lab if you want red gem (there are so few of these you are actually very likely to get it in few runs). for green/blue merc lab is the sweet spot - there is a small chance for targeted trans gem and you still get the regular take. merc lab is FREE so no need to collect entry tokens

if someone cannot stand 1hr grind for a gem, SSF is not for them anyway
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sidtherat wrote:
this (and many other) posts are the reason why GGG did not want to introduce SSF as an official thing
But they did want to, else it wouldn’t have happened. It’s not like anyone forced them - only things GGG wants to do make it into the game, by definition.

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sidtherat wrote:
people who want to play SSF because they do not want to interact with other people - just dont list any tabs public and NOONE EVER will bother you
You don’t need to tell us this, man. We know how to not trade.
Last edited by GusTheCrocodile on Feb 3, 2024, 6:00:32 PM

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