Eckalina | SC | FARMBUILD [Amazing dps and IQ/IR] | Dual Spark | Low Life Mode - RF |

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Fakeycakes23 wrote:

Hey guys, long time creeper of this build and decided to make it. level 33 and just got dual totems. I'm still playing around with IIQ/IIR items but I have the required so far ( except Shavs obv lol ). So how do you guys play this, from what I understand and what I've been doing is drop 2 totems, cast curse, recast when needed. Now my dps is pretty low (28dps with 20Q spark) but when I'm getting into RF do I need to cast another totem as well as spork totems ? and is RF a must when trying to do high level maps or are you guys doing fine without it ?

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Ziellos wrote:

Shav is 14-20 ex, of course you guys won't just get it as a drop. RNG. I haven't had a single good item drop worth more than an Exalt, after three lvl 80s and around 100 ex worth of gear..

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Svndeadlysns wrote:

I'm trying to run discipline and vitality on my gloves with reduced mana/blood magic gems in them (just like in the guide here) and for some reason it isn't letting me run both of them at the same time. One gets blacked out before the other does.

Just curious if anyone knows the reason as to why this is happening.

Also curious if its even possible...in the OP it seems like it is.

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BansheeLP wrote:

you can equip this chest, cast your Auras you want with Bloodmagic, and change the Chest to your normal one.
Bloodmagic from this item does NOT have a mana multiplier like the gem Bloodmagic has. This way I have at least 2 Auras on my Life and 2-3 Auras on my Mana without having any +HP on my gear. +HP on gear is a wothless stat imho with this build

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Pesusieni wrote:

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BansheeLP wrote:

you can equip this chest, cast your Auras you want with Bloodmagic, and change the Chest to your normal one.
Bloodmagic from this item does NOT have a mana multiplier like the gem Bloodmagic has. This way I have at least 2 Auras on my Life and 2-3 Auras on my Mana without having any +HP on my gear. +HP on gear is a wothless stat imho with this build

Thanks for the tip. I was planning to buy one after I saw this but I was lucky enough to get an equivalent item on my next fellshrine run :D

The 100% increased mana cost doesn't seem to affect auras.

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Pesusieni wrote:

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Svndeadlysns wrote:

I'm trying to run discipline and vitality on my gloves with reduced mana/blood magic gems in them (just like in the guide here) and for some reason it isn't letting me run both of them at the same time. One gets blacked out before the other does.

Just curious if anyone knows the reason as to why this is happening.

Also curious if its even possible...in the OP it seems like it is.

Try These:

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BansheeLP wrote:

you can equip this chest, cast your Auras you want with Bloodmagic, and change the Chest to your normal one.
Bloodmagic from this item does NOT have a mana multiplier like the gem Bloodmagic has. This way I have at least 2 Auras on my Life and 2-3 Auras on my Mana without having any +HP on my gear. +HP on gear is a wothless stat imho with this build

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Pesusieni wrote:

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BansheeLP wrote:

you can equip this chest, cast your Auras you want with Bloodmagic, and change the Chest to your normal one.
Bloodmagic from this item does NOT have a mana multiplier like the gem Bloodmagic has. This way I have at least 2 Auras on my Life and 2-3 Auras on my Mana without having any +HP on my gear. +HP on gear is a wothless stat imho with this build

Thanks for the tip. I was planning to buy one after I saw this but I was lucky enough to get an equivalent item on my next fellshrine run :D

The 100% increased mana cost doesn't seem to affect auras.

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Svndeadlysns wrote:

So if I acquire either the helm or the robe I can cast the two aura's and then switch back to the original helm or armor that I want to use and the affect will still remain on my character? I'm just trying to understand how that exactly works since I thought when I remove said piece that I used to place the aura's on with (lets just say the robe you posted) it will be taken off once I switch it out with the armor piece that I want to use.

Just curious how that exactly works since I would like to use both vitality and discipline/clarity/purity (most likely purity and vitality since they would place me at the lowest possible life modifications without sacrificing my mana as much) and I'm not sure how switching the armor on/off would work.

Edit---Do I also have to have both the two aura's after switching on an equiped item after I make the switch. Sorry about all the questions just fully trying to understand this end of it.

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timmeey wrote:

It's possible to run two auras without (ab)using the Blood Magic Items, but it requires high gem levels and enough cash to get a 20% Quality Reduced Mana Gem.

Using the following Variables:
x = Max HP
0.4 * x = HP cost of Vitality
d = HP cost of Discipline
r = Reduced Mana multiplier
b = Blood Magic multiplier
p = Percentage of remaining HP

We can calculate the desired maximum HP as:

x = drb / ( 1 - 0.4rb - p )

Interested in where I got such a formula from? If so, expand this:

Spoiler

I used my brain, together with basic math:

The cost of Vitality with Blood Magic and Reduced Mana is 0.4 * x * r * b (or short: 0.4xrb)
The cost of Discipline with Blood Magic and Reduced Mana is d * r * b (or short: drb)
The desired HP buffer is p * x (or short: px)

What can we do with these values?
Our required maximum HP is: Vitality cost + Discipline cost + desired HP buffer
Translating that into math using our variables:

x = 0.4xrb + drb + px
x - 0.4xrb - px = drb
x * ( 1 - 0.4rb - p ) = drb
x = drb / ( 1 - 0.4rb - p )

The last line is the formula for our required maximum HP

Now the perfect thing you could achieve gem-wise would be:
lvl 20 Discipline (quality doesn't matter here)
lvl 20 Vitality (quality doesn't matter here)
lvl 20 Blood Magic (quality doesn't matter here)
lvl 20 Reduced Mana with 20% Quality

With these gems:

If you want to run both auras and have 35% HP left, you need around 1500 Max HP
If you want to run both auras and have 20% HP left, you need around 800 Max HP
If you want to run both auras and have 10% HP left, you need around 610 Max HP

You can reduce these values by using a lower level Discipline Gem which will reserve less HP

If u're interested in math again:

Spoiler

Let's assume you have lvl 20 Auras, lvl 20 Blood Magic and a 20% Quality lvl 20 Reduced Mana

That means for our upper variables:
d = 215 (discipline at level 20)
r = 0.61 (reduced mana at level 20 and quality 20)
b = 1.96 (blood magic at level 20)

That means
drb = 215 * 0.61 * 1.96 = 257.054
0.4rb = 0.4 * 0.61 * 1.96 = 0.47824

Now if we wanted to have exactly 35% left:
x = 257.054 / ( 1 - 0.47824 - 0.35 ) = 1,496.58

This would mean you would need around 1.5k HP

As this is pretty high for this build, let's try 20% HP left:

x = 257.054 / ( 1 - 0.47824 - 0.2 ) = 799 (rounded up)

This sounds a lot better.
If even 10% would be enough for you (because you have Shavronne's, or you don't care):

x = 257.054 / ( 1 - 0.47824 - 0.1 ) = 609,5 (rounded up)

TL;DR: Use lvl 20 Vitality, lvl 20 Discipline, lvl 20 Blood Magic and a lvl 20 Q20 Reduced Mana in a 4L item (needs 3 red and a blue socket), then if you have around 800 Max HP, the auras will reserve around 80% of your HP.